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Frigates can they make good isk?

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Avvy
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-02-11 14:26:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Avvy
In the past, I've only really used frigates as a stepping stone to cruisers then battlecruisers and battleships.


Considering it's my only character and I have no intention of having a second character to help out.



So I have 24.4 mill sp.

Most of that is to do with frigates although a lot is used on larger ships.

I identified 128 skills which I consider to be used with frigates or for frigates. Possibly a new frigate class which if there is hasn't been included.

Out of those 128, 35 are at lvl 5, 70 at lvl 4 and 23 at lvl 3 (some of those level 3s are in the skill queue atm, plus 10 are just rigging skills).


So I can only really fit and fly frigates or t1 destroyers.


I can't really think of anything as a frigate pilot that's going to make enough isk to cover the losses especially in hostile regions. As I'm in an NPC corp. I'm obviously considering solo activities at this point.

So any ideas?


Edit:

Using combat skills.
Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
#2 - 2016-02-11 14:35:08 UTC
You can make a lot of isk hacking relic sites in a frigate.
Avvy
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-02-11 14:41:04 UTC
Persephone Alleile wrote:
You can make a lot of isk hacking relic sites in a frigate.



Ok thanks, that's something I'll definitely have to look into.
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2016-02-11 14:42:23 UTC
Sit around 250 km cloaked off Jita 4-4, wait for things to explode, warp in, scoop any loot that will fit and dock up.

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Avvy
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-02-11 14:54:03 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Sit around 250 km cloaked off Jita 4-4, wait for things to explode, warp in, scoop any loot that will fit and dock up.


I guess covert-op is the best for that, so that remains a possibility as I can fly those.
Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2016-02-11 16:29:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
To start off I would just use a cheap frigate, if you get blapped it's no big deal.

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Memphis Baas
#7 - 2016-02-11 17:10:44 UTC
Avvy wrote:
I can't really think of anything as a frigate pilot that's going to make enough isk to cover the losses especially in hostile regions. As I'm in an NPC corp. I'm obviously considering solo activities at this point.


Not sure what you're talking about... Mining with a Venture for a couple hours in high sec = enough income to blow up 5-10 frigates.

The trick is not bling'ing a ship that's likely to die a lot.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#8 - 2016-02-11 17:19:35 UTC
Avvy wrote:

So I have 24.4 mill sp.





But how skilled are you?

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Avvy
Doomheim
#9 - 2016-02-11 17:53:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Avvy
Memphis Baas wrote:
Avvy wrote:
I can't really think of anything as a frigate pilot that's going to make enough isk to cover the losses especially in hostile regions. As I'm in an NPC corp. I'm obviously considering solo activities at this point.


Not sure what you're talking about... Mining with a Venture for a couple hours in high sec = enough income to blow up 5-10 frigates.

The trick is not bling'ing a ship that's likely to die a lot.



Mining? People still do that?


Got no mining skills, other than mining at level 2 which was a skill you have at creation. Nearly all the skills trained are combat focused. The 128 I was talking about are combat focused, I include core skills in that. (I actually have 181 skills in total and a lot of those other 53 skill are also combat focused just not frigates).

Although I did the tutorials I didn't learn the non-combat skill books, so can't even fly a venture as I have no need to.

Edit:

I should of made it more clear that it was combat orientated.
Avvy
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-02-11 17:55:08 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Avvy wrote:

So I have 24.4 mill sp.





But how skilled are you?



How skilled are you?
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#11 - 2016-02-11 18:49:34 UTC
I think you've missed my point


You're asking about frigates, and then proceed to tell us about your skill point totals, distributions, etc...and I'm basically asking 'How much experience have you had with them'?


:)

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Avvy
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-02-11 18:51:53 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
I think you've missed my point


You're asking about frigates, and then proceed to tell us about your skill point totals, distributions, etc...and I'm basically asking 'How much experience have you had with them'?


:)



No, I'm just used to your style of writing/posting.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#13 - 2016-02-11 18:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Bumblefck
OK Mrs Troll, continue to troll away - I'm trying to help answer your question and I get this.


Besides, is this really a new player's question, if you have 24m SP?

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-02-11 18:55:11 UTC
As Bumble said, just boasting about your raw SP amounts means jack ****.

Do you know HOW to fly and use your ship (aka player skill) under stress.


By your logic, I can fly a titan on my capital character, as it has all related skills to 4. But in reality, I cant cause I dont know how. I just trained it for the sake of being able to train it and maybe in the fufure I might need them

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Avvy
Doomheim
#15 - 2016-02-11 19:05:34 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
As Bumble said, just boasting about your raw SP amounts means jack ****.

Do you know HOW to fly and use your ship (aka player skill) under stress.


By your logic, I can fly a titan on my capital character, as it has all related skills to 4. But in reality, I cant cause I dont know how. I just trained it for the sake of being able to train it and maybe in the fufure I might need them



The skills trained were really just background information. That led up to the question.

Which is can frigate pilots make good isk as I couldn't think of anyway of doing it solo.


I've had two good replies and considering both.


Part of the problem with frigates is hold size, also never heard of a frigate doing level 4 missions.

SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-02-11 19:11:23 UTC
Plenty of ISK to be made in frigates via exploration, burner missions, mining (ore, ice, or gas), potentially PvP if you're good.


Avvy wrote:
Mining? People still do that?


Turns out a player run economy without any raw material is kind of a bummer.

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Avvy
Doomheim
#17 - 2016-02-11 19:26:35 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Plenty of ISK to be made in frigates via exploration, burner missions, mining (ore, ice, or gas), potentially PvP if you're good.


Avvy wrote:
Mining? People still do that?


Turns out a player run economy without any raw material is kind of a bummer.




Mining is no good for me, used to mine gave it up when I was running 3 accounts. Problem was I kept falling asleep, that's actually a true fact. Gave it up around 2009.

But, yeah mining is necessary, just something that doesn't really interest me.



PvP is likely to take time but exploration as well as PvP might work. With PvP only it's likely to just drain the resources.
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2016-02-11 19:27:30 UTC
Its better to be good at frigates, than bad at battleships.

I have MAX skills (like max EVERYTHING) and I still fly assault frigates all the time. Also, if you are flying fleet, you can do the tackling role in interceptors, a type of frigate. An FC would MUCH rather have a good, highly skilled tackler, than some random low dps battleship in his fleet.

Doing exploration or complexes in a T2 frigate can be very profitable, much more so than using a low-skill cruiser or BS. One advantage of the frigate is that it moves around quickly.



Memphis Baas
#19 - 2016-02-11 19:30:40 UTC
Also FW. And it doesn't matter what ship you fly; can make billions day-trading or scamming in Jita. Frigate or not.

If you wish to stick to frigates, feel free, nothing wrong with it. I would recommend training an industrial to 4, just so you can carry some loot around and facilitate this "making of money."
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2016-02-11 19:50:59 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Droidster wrote:
Its better to be good at frigates, than bad at battleships.

I have MAX skills (like max EVERYTHING) and I still fly assault frigates all the time. Also, if you are flying fleet, you can do the tackling role in interceptors, a type of frigate. An FC would MUCH rather have a good, highly skilled tackler, than some random low dps battleship in his fleet.

Doing exploration or complexes in a T2 frigate can be very profitable, much more so than using a low-skill cruiser or BS. One advantage of the frigate is that it moves around quickly.






Go troll.


I call your BS, as you are not maxed skilled, hell you arent even among the top people.in terms of SP amounts

Not to mention, it takes approx 24 years to train all skills to 5, and you must be **** at math as dont know but EVE isnt that old

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