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Why Does EvE Online not have a Movie? Not video Clips, A Movie.

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Jade Yanumano
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#1 - 2016-02-11 13:11:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Yanumano
I have been pondering something, maybe the community and CCP can possibly look into it, and not just look at home made pvp clips and consider an actual movie.

After 13 years of existence one would think EvE Online would have a movie out. There are enough story lines around to beable to make one. I mean look at this for example below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qEXq0cH3x0&feature=youtu.be

How does Warcraft have one coming out, and i must say rather interesting as well. I plan on watching it. But can no one imagine for themselves how fantastic it would be to see a Eve Online movie with a story line? Immortalize EvE Online in a movie and capsuleers.
Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
#2 - 2016-02-11 13:40:40 UTC
Jade Yanumano
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#3 - 2016-02-11 13:45:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Yanumano


I have seen that. That is more just a very basic community attempted movie. I am talking about something like what you see in the trailer i linked. Now that is a full blown movie that will be in theaters. Millions will see it, subscriptions and advertising will sky rocket, but in the end it will immortalize EvE Online on a larger scale with millions more seeing it, and seeing what so many players over the years have achieved in EvE Online.

Here is a HD version released from Universal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVzb956kdgc

EvE Online has some truly great story lines, and A LOT of great people that play EvE. Why can CCP not negotiate the development of a movie with one of the great movie studios?
Pix Severus
Empty You
#4 - 2016-02-11 13:57:11 UTC
Jade Yanumano wrote:
That is more just a very basic community attempted movie.


It deserves a bit more credit than that, a huge amount of work went into making Clear Skies by those involved, and the end result was a very enjoyable movie.

Jade Yanumano wrote:
I am talking about something like what you see in the trailer i linked. Now that is a full blown movie that will be in theaters. Millions will see it, subscriptions and advertising will sky rocket, but in the end it will immortalize EvE Online on a larger scale with millions more seeing it, and seeing what so many players over the years have achieved in EvE Online.


Millions will see the Warcraft movie because its Warcraft. EVE is a lot more niche and won't fill theatres to anywhere near the same degree. Although I'd love to see it happen, I just don't think it ever will, not on that scale anyway.

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#5 - 2016-02-11 14:01:04 UTC
Bagsie Lexa Doig to play me.

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Jade Yanumano
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Caldari State
#6 - 2016-02-11 14:04:17 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
Jade Yanumano wrote:
That is more just a very basic community attempted movie.


It deserves a bit more credit than that, a huge amount of work went into making Clear Skies by those involved, and the end result was a very enjoyable movie.

Jade Yanumano wrote:
I am talking about something like what you see in the trailer i linked. Now that is a full blown movie that will be in theaters. Millions will see it, subscriptions and advertising will sky rocket, but in the end it will immortalize EvE Online on a larger scale with millions more seeing it, and seeing what so many players over the years have achieved in EvE Online.


Millions will see the Warcraft movie because its Warcraft. EVE is a lot more niche and won't fill theatres to anywhere near the same degree. Although I'd love to see it happen, I just don't think it ever will, not on that scale anyway.


Don't get me wrong, i was not saying the guys from Clear Skies did a bad job. But it would seriously be absolutely fantastic to see all the hard work from both the community and CCP be put into a movie of that quality like the Warcraft movie coming out in June 2016. EVE definitely has the story lines to develop a world class movie like the Warcraft movie, irrespective of the 'niche' you spoke of. I may sound stupid, but after all this hard work for the past 13 years and still going strong, i believe that not only does CCP deserve it, but the community of EvE players deserve it as well to see the game they play so much immortalized in such a movie.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2016-02-11 14:06:19 UTC
When ever I think along these lines I remember this and realize how lucky we have been.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#8 - 2016-02-11 14:13:28 UTC
Jade Yanumano wrote:
I have been pondering something, maybe the community and CCP can possibly look into it, and not just look at home made pvp clips and consider an actual movie.

After 13 years of existence one would think EvE Online would have a movie out. There are enough story lines around to beable to make one. I mean look at this for example below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qEXq0cH3x0&feature=youtu.be

How does Warcraft have one coming out, and i must say rather interesting as well. I plan on watching it. But can no one imagine for themselves how fantastic it would be to see a Eve Online movie with a story line? Immortalize EvE Online in a movie and capsuleers.
Movies cost a pretty large amount of money and need to be able to guarantee a good return on investment. The Warcraft movie already has a huge audience to market to, not just in World of Warcraft but from other Warcraft games and all the other media they've already been in as well. EVE just doesn't have that sizable a market. I mean let's face it, the EVE community failed to launch a book P, let alone guarantee the budget for a full blown movie.

Honestly though, I don't think most people would really notice the difference between EVE lore and any other generic space setting anyway, since most of what makes EVE what is it is how the players play it.

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Chribba
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#9 - 2016-02-11 14:15:27 UTC
There's been talks of a TV-series, maybe sometime...

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#10 - 2016-02-11 14:35:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
OMG, featuring Mittens talking about all his crap all the time, with maybe an intro panoramic shot or two of actual spaceships, briefly, per episode?

*shudder*

EDIT: EVE is about player drama, a TV series would be just a soap opera, mostly dialogue with a brief space shot just to establish the scene, but not enough space movie to be any good. No thanks.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#11 - 2016-02-11 14:42:35 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
I mean let's face it, the EVE community failed to launch a book P

Mittani's attempt at getting the EVE playerbase to fund his business with a full-blown propaganda piece failed. Not more.

The other book that comes to my mind, Andrew Groen's "A History of the Great Wars of EVE Online" got funded beyond his wildest expectations (and yes, I backed that. Whereas I didn't give the slightest **** about that propaganda crap that Mittani wanted to release).

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Lucas Kell
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#12 - 2016-02-11 15:03:54 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Mittani's attempt at getting the EVE playerbase to fund his business with a full-blown propaganda piece failed. Not more.

The other book that comes to my mind, Andrew Groen's "A History of the Great Wars of EVE Online" got funded beyond his wildest expectations (and yes, I backed that. Whereas I didn't give the slightest **** about that propaganda crap that Mittani wanted to release).
Call it what you want (though how a book where the author takes direct input from the enemies of the Imperium would be propaganda I don't know), it was a book agreed by CCP, to be written by a published author, put forward by one of the most well known players in the game and it failed to gain traction. Like it or not, rejecting media opportunities like that, regardless of who puts it forward, hurts chances of future projects.

It's hardly the best sign for someone wanting to put the kind of budget that movies require on the line. Why would they bother trying to dance around the delicate subjects (based in fact) that upset players like yourself when they could simply ignore the EVE lore, write a space story about a big war and release a movie about that without tying themselves to IP.

From what I've read of Groen's book it's just a longwinded way of reciting EVE history, which we all know and 5 minutes of google can tell you. While it might be a great thing for EVE fans to collect and stick next to their unopened copies of EVE Source, it's not exactly something that will excite non-EVE players and provide a gripping read.

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Jacques d'Orleans
#13 - 2016-02-11 15:06:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jacques d'Orleans
Pix Severus wrote:

Millions will see the Warcraft movie because its Warcraft. EVE is a lot more niche and won't fill theatres to anywhere near the same degree. Although I'd love to see it happen, I just don't think it ever will, not on that scale anyway.


Given the size of the planets population, there are still Billions of people who never ever heard of Warcraft.
To make a movie successfull today you have to get the people into the cinemas who never played Warcraft.
Even when everybody who has played Warcraft woud see that movie, the numbers woudn't be enough to make it a Blockbuster.
It's all about marketing today and if they would have a good script with a thrilling story a EVE Movie could be a success too.
vr0p
Non-Aligned Stellar Trading
#14 - 2016-02-11 15:13:47 UTC
Honestly no film script could capture what makes Eve compelling, the "space combat" genre is saturated and just doesn't need more Battlestar Galacticas and Star Wars'es. A lot of the emotional drama comes from our shared experience as players, of all the dashed hopes when that Badger Mk II got away or when that enemy fleet sniffed your ambush and took another route. So when a successful battle DOES happen, it is that much sweeter since it represents the hours of patience and failures it took to get there.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#15 - 2016-02-11 15:24:12 UTC
Games-to-movies have been really hit-or-miss for another thing. Much as I'd love to go see MechWarrior/Battletech or Eve made into movies, they would in all honesty have to be done incredibly well to do any real justice to either franchise. Same for several other examples, but those for me personally are the biggest ones in my mind.

I'm not even a huge Battletech fan and Eve is not even my favorite game but I sure as hell would kill to see the Clans hitting the IS borders or some massive Sleeper incursion break out in New Eden known-space on the big screen...in IMAX 3d, no less. Trouble is, with the kind of history the movie industry has with such adaptations, script would likely be horribly done or just have no real feeling or substance in them. I hope I'm one day proven absolutely wrong, but doubtful.

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#16 - 2016-02-11 16:28:51 UTC
Some sort of "EVE player" documentary would be better, IMO.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-02-11 16:34:44 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
(though how a book where the author takes direct input from the enemies of the Imperium would be propaganda I don't know).


He's way too polarized for it to work imo. No matter what he said it would be, people would not believe him. The association with his media enterprise pretty much made it so it would be mostly goon funded or bust. Especially since it had to be funded before anyone could see if the claim of "It won't be biased" were true or not.

Now the question is, could the community even be able to back up a project hard enough even if the launcher was as neutral as we can find?
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#18 - 2016-02-11 17:08:44 UTC
Even as a WoW Player I'm underwhelmed by the movie trailers for that movie. Their promo movies seem better written.

David Weber's Honor Harrington series has constantly been under rumor of a movie, TV series, whatever. THAT hasn't happened either and it's even more detailed than EVE Lore is with a massive readership following. They've made both the Sword of Truth and Game of Thrones into shows and Harrington (arguably) has as much of a following as both those and far more books to play with for story lines.

So EVE not having a movie doesn't surprise me, it's a far smaller community and most modern MMO players don't even know it's still running, I know I didn't. I recall the launch and some follow ups years ago and it looked interesting but then nothing. I'm glad it's still running, like the game and all, but it's something of a sleeper MMO.

Could a movie be made... certainly. If a dedicated group of players with media skills got together, you could have your own little YouTube TV show, episodes and all.

It just takes time, talent, some money and serious levels of commitment. Those are the hard things to get to line up!
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#19 - 2016-02-11 17:38:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Frostys Virpio wrote:
He's way too polarized for it to work imo. No matter what he said it would be, people would not believe him.
By "he" I assume you mean Mittani. People could actually email the author directly, he was writing the book and it would only be CCPs oversight he needed. Jeff made this clear in his AMA.

Frostys Virpio wrote:
The association with his media enterprise pretty much made it so it would be mostly goon funded or bust. Especially since it had to be funded before anyone could see if the claim of "It won't be biased" were true or not.
Potentially, but only due to how overly serious players take in-game politics. Objectively there's no reason to expect anything different from Mittani than any other player out to make cash off the game. And the thing is, biased or not, we all know how the story would end. I think a lot of people didn't like that the story would end with goons winning, but then that's how it goes since they actually did.

Frostys Virpio wrote:
Now the question is, could the community even be able to back up a project hard enough even if the launcher was as neutral as we can find?
I honestly doubt there's enough players to back any serious project, and only handful of "neutral" players that would be able to bring a serious writer to the table.

As strange as it sounds coming from an Imperium member, I've always shown in the past that I'm not exactly Mittanis biggest fan, and my membership of the Imperium is purely down to members of an old corp from rental days way back moved into SMA and I floated across to join them. Sure enough, it would be preferable if someone like Chribba were to push and idea like this, but regardless, I backed it before and will again if it comes back up purely because I'd like to read some quality EVE based fiction and think Jeff could provide that. Even if it were a little biased and even when the inevitable "goons win" conclusion is reached, I think it would be an entertaining read.

That said, I'd be on board for anyone attempting to write or get a writer to do the same, and if a movie is really what people want, that's far more likely to occur if there's a well written book to base it on, so get writing people. Straight up history book though, not so much.

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#20 - 2016-02-11 17:54:40 UTC
It was less about the actual book than crowd-funding Mittani's enterprise.
Why the hell Fountain war anyway? There are so many other wars that have been way more interesting. I don't doubt that the book may have been a decent read, but the way it was pulled off went wrong on so many accounts that it's laughable.

If you ask me, that book was just an excuse for a failed lawyer to get other people to crowd-fund his enterprise and fuel his gigantic ego in the process.
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