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New camera now in opt-in Beta on TQ

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Esnaelc Sin'led
Lonesome Capsuleer
#161 - 2016-02-09 16:26:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Esnaelc Sin'led
You've improved the camera quite nicely over the previous months, but, still one thing that won't make me test it :

As a PvPer, i like to be able to DScan my environment rapidly and with minimal clicks and mouse travels.
Automatic Tracking Camera was good for that.

Just let us toggle on / off tracking camera so that we won't need to click "C" each time we want to DScan one celestial or a bookmark, or whatever.
[Edit] And i forgot to mention that it's quite important as well, as an interceptor, to be able to see, thanks to the Tracking Camera, where a target warp off to. Tracking Camera was very handy for that matter.

Please.
Center Tracking Camera on / off.
Just this.
And i will test it during 'real' fights in game.
Ashlar Maidstone
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#162 - 2016-02-09 16:35:52 UTC
Whilst the new camera is ok, I cannot see the reasoning behind the statement made that after 30 days I will be forced to use the new camera. The new camera does NOT fit into what ever catagory of view and is too hard to even do anything with it. It's fine if you want to make videos or screen shots, BUT for all practical intent and purpose it's complete JUNK if you're in a fleet fight from small to large fleets where you may have hundreds involved.

IF after thirty (30) days this is forced on us as a default, then I hate to see what else will get broken. I for one just cannot use the new camera as is, thank you.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#163 - 2016-02-09 16:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Current camera is fine. Why be a **** and change it for something worse?

We on a 30 day count down to release and removal of the current camera?

Theres lots of reasons to question CCPs current changes, but this is the only one that will make the game less playable for me on a tangible level.

If i cant pilot as well because im constantly fighting against an out of control camera that carries on doing things well after ive stopped providing input and i cant see as much because of a turd FOV, i might not feel like undocking. If i dont feel like undocking, theres not much point me logging in.
Darius Caliente
The Pinecone Squad
United Federation of Conifers
#164 - 2016-02-09 16:51:31 UTC
Since constant voices across multiple mediums appear to fail to hit the threshold for fixing something you broke, I wish to add my voice to the masses.

After logging in this morning and seeing the new camera options, I docked up and logged back out. I'm thankful someone on reddit posted the checkboxes to turn them off. Please add the old options back in and leave them as the default. The tracking camera was one of the more useful features CCP has added in recent years and none of the new camera options come close to accomplishing the same task.
Orcae
The Pinecone Squad
United Federation of Conifers
#165 - 2016-02-09 16:53:06 UTC
Darius Caliente wrote:
Since constant voices across multiple mediums appear to fail to hit the threshold for fixing something you broke, I wish to add my voice to the masses.

After logging in this morning and seeing the new camera options, I docked up and logged back out. I'm thankful someone on reddit posted the checkboxes to turn them off. Please add the old options back in and leave them as the default. The tracking camera was one of the more useful features CCP has added in recent years and none of the new camera options come close to accomplishing the same task.


Agreed!
Mukki Padruig
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2016-02-09 17:02:10 UTC
Adria Black wrote:
The new tactical camera is a miss. It triggers some maddening sounds that I cannot turn off regardless of what audio setting I chose. Either I have to disable most every sound that the game emits or suffer what is otherwise known as enhanced interrogation techniques. Please fix this.

+1

Please please please fix this. I want to use the new camera, but until this is fixed, it's just going to give me a headache.
Valthax Kelkore
Damen LLC
#167 - 2016-02-09 17:05:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Valthax Kelkore
I'm just returning to EVE after several years away and this camera change is NOT something that was needed.

Just when I'm getting used to the new tracking camera feature, it's disabled and replaced with an impractical fps-esque mode. This is EVE, not some new and upcoming game where aiming with a cross-hair matters.....

The tactical overlay that I remember so well was perfectly fine and didn't require an update.

And I'm not here for a visual experience that comes with the orbit mode.

CCP, please stop "fixing" things that were never broken to begin with....

The new cam has been disabled, and I'll leave it disabled for as long as possible. And if the disable feature is removed, well, you'll lose my sub yet again.
Alysha Saronn
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#168 - 2016-02-09 17:23:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Alysha Saronn
DO NOT TAKE TRACKING CAM AWAY FROM THE CAMERA!!

Like holy ****! I got one, started dscaning **** then i noticed i can't auto lock objects in space.. So I'm like " what the hell?" the LOOK AT feature doesn't work very well while dscanning, I mean come on CCP, the things that don't need to be fixed shouldn't be touched.. Stop fixing **** that doesn't need to be fix it works leave it alone!!

CCP just need to file chapter 11 on it's Dev team and just start from scratch these idiots have terrible Ideas and its ruining the game, more people keep leaving day after day because of these garbage changes that alter the game so drastically it's hard to adapt to them, I mean unsubed and sold three super chars, because whats the point of doing anything with jump fatigue.. and now with this **** camera changes? and lets not even get started on how bad fozzie sov ****** up null-sec...

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Tribunus Shmoof Sardianii
Latianii Auxilia Cohortum
#169 - 2016-02-09 17:25:17 UTC
Please for the love of god, is there a way to reenable the right click camera that let's you look around?
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#170 - 2016-02-09 17:28:52 UTC
escape menu, general settings, bottom left

For now.
Mav'Lite
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#171 - 2016-02-09 17:30:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Mav'Lite
getting rid of the tracking camera is bad mmkay.....luckily we can get it back via the options menu (for now)....

...but omg CCP.....what planet where you on and what were you drinking/smoking when you thought it might be a remotely good idea to remove the tracking camera?, its like one of the single most useful tools for pvp!
Dominous Nolen
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#172 - 2016-02-09 17:42:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Dominous Nolen
Adria Black wrote:
The new tactical camera is a miss. It triggers some maddening sounds that I cannot turn off regardless of what audio setting I chose. Either I have to disable most every sound that the game emits or suffer what is otherwise known as enhanced interrogation techniques. Please fix this.


I've been feeding that one back since the thing went live on SISI.
Why in the absolutely hell do I need a sound effect when I'm in a particular camera mode?

It's the same thing I've brought up when jumping through incursion systems and thera. I can't turn off the ambient "noise" and it's really rather annoying.

@dominousnolen

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Dr Bob Madeveda
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#173 - 2016-02-09 19:59:57 UTC
I like the new camera, but I too miss the auto tracking camera from the old camera. Not only are there additional clicks required to look at each object to be able to scan, but the old tracking camera also tracked in warp, so you could Dscan plexes when they came into range. The new C tracking camera only works when you are out of warp. Which is a shame.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#174 - 2016-02-09 20:05:46 UTC
Dr Bob Madeveda wrote:
I like the new camera, but I too miss the auto tracking camera from the old camera. Not only are there additional clicks required to look at each object to be able to scan, but the old tracking camera also tracked in warp, so you could Dscan plexes when they came into range. The new C tracking camera only works when you are out of warp. Which is a shame.

Should probably preface that post with 'im a very casual player who only flies a rifter'.
Dallenovic
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#175 - 2016-02-09 20:15:13 UTC
We need the tracking camera!!! Please for the love of EVE do not remove this, even with the right click track option, chasing people and d-scanning is not the same!

<3
Kelvin Adestur
Rubbish
#176 - 2016-02-09 20:16:19 UTC
Dallenovic wrote:
We need the tracking camera!!! Please for the love of EVE do not remove this, even with the right click track option, chasing people and d-scanning is not the same!

<3



+1

pls make the tracking option permanent

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Captain Cean
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#177 - 2016-02-09 20:17:03 UTC
Dallenovic wrote:
We need the tracking camera!!! Please for the love of EVE do not remove this, even with the right click track option, chasing people and d-scanning is not the same!

<3


+1
Jessica Hansson
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#178 - 2016-02-09 20:17:43 UTC
Kelvin Adestur wrote:
Dallenovic wrote:
We need the tracking camera!!! Please for the love of EVE do not remove this, even with the right click track option, chasing people and d-scanning is not the same!

<3



+1

pls make the tracking option permanent



double quote for underlining the importance of the tracking option!
Sakul Aubaris
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#179 - 2016-02-09 20:21:34 UTC
Need the old tracking camera.
Is a pain in the ass to handle the new tracking camera.
Kazi Kugisa
Roving Guns Inc.
Pandemic Legion
#180 - 2016-02-09 20:44:05 UTC
Add me to the list: I opted out of the new camera after only a couple of minutes. It is useless if you are scouting and hunting as not having a full tracking camera makes DSCAN and following warping targets FUBARed. It looks pretty but the tracking functionality is the MOST IMPORTANT FUNCTION of the camera. It is the one thing the new piece of junk doesn't do.