Player Features and Ideas Discussion

In my opinion this is far to high.

I understand CCP wanting to make some monetary gain from this but such a huge cost is well out of order in my opinion. Here is my thinking.

Character trading has a 2 plex transfer cost, for any amount of SP.
For example I recently sold a 31mil SP toon costing 2.3billion in plex transfer cost. [roughly]

To transfer 31million SP via extractors would cost 62 extractors equal to 62,000 aurum give or take some for the sales of 5% and 10% on bundles. 1 plex gives 3500 aurum.
17.7 PLEX required to transfer that example alts SP via extractors. Costing nearly 20billion isk.

Nearly a tenfold increase in exchange of SP from player to play [not character to character]
I fully appreciate that this SP is going from 1 character to a character of your choice in to a skill of your choice.
But such a vast increase in price seems completely unjustified to me.

The numbers I have quoted here are indeed based upon 1 unscientific poll of my own experience but I suspect around 30mil is a reasonable average for traded characters. Ones with more SP make this an even bigger increase in cost per SP and vice versa less SP toons decrease the cost per SP.

In conclusion
CCP you introduced and billed this as a feature to allow players to exchange SP for a variety of reasons from helping new pilots catch up to FCs getting pilots in to new doctrine among others. New pilots realistically will not be able to afford this cost unless they throw real life cash at Eve, nor will many FCs be willing to burden such a cost just to change doctrines. In concept this is a great idea which I had big hopes for but fact you have put such a huge profit margin for yourselves has ruined it for all but the people with hundreds of billions in their wallet who just want to throw more SP on to their alts so they can multibox more.

TLDR - CCPlease stop making "features" for players that just fatten your wallet via plex prices increasing.
Salt confirmed.
Edit - If this is wrong forum for this please redirect me to the correct place for the feedback on this feature as after looking it was not obvious.

PS. - The idea I have is make the cost of extractors more like 100-250 aurum each not 1000

If players in your alliance aren't up to standards, one might wonder why they are in the alliance? If you accept new recruits in order to train them, surely your standards should include lower SP toons? :)

On topic: I dunno tbh, I'm on the fence about the whole thing, while I like the idea of essentially respeccing SP I wasted in skills I no longer use, paying for enough extractors to respec adds up to a hefty sum VERY quickly.

2.5 Euro per extractor may not sound like a lot.. but neither is 500k SP.. If you trained for a month you'd been 4 extractors instantly, 5 if you account for the SP loss of injecting.

suddenly that 2.5 Euro is adding up to ten bucks. on top of the sub fee.

CCP, theres a reason they are called MICROtransactions.
and yes, this statement applies to pretty much the entire gaming industry today..

Giving new players a chance to get their hands dirty in Null sec. It's not like we do not have them not covered (every doctrine we use has new player friendly ships), but some do not like to fly Mauluses or Vigils in every fleet (despite the fact that these ships are important to make Tengus or Hurricanes hit harder or disrupt the opponent's logistics), they insist on either bringing underskilled DPS or logi ships or not participate at all. But thanks to skill injectors, this is a thing of the past soon. Now I can demand from them to go to Jita, buy SP and then get their preferred ships properly trained.

I agree . This is just another end around 'pay to win' scheme by CCP . We have already paid for our skill points once . At the very least CCP should have offered , once a year SP re-allotment , to fix skilling mess ups . At a fixed amount .

That was mentioned as a possible drawback to trading SP, but most just said that was a silly assumption and we should look for better Corps....
The problem is that it is simply human nature, which many will never understand. CCP does!

It is sad to see a game developer take advantage of such things for apparently profit reasons.

800 ISK/SP is low, you are not factoring in all the costs and you are also not factoring in any sort of mark up. Those number represent the costs of SP, not the final market price.

OOOH!! OOOH!! OOOH!! Now that we has Gold Skill Points, when can we buy Gold Ammo??
(/endsarcasm)

Given that there really isn't any variable cost to CCP for extractors, the price could only be said to be "too high" if reducing the price by a given percentage would result in a proportionally larger increase in sales, such that the total revenue generated were higher at the lower price point.

That very well may be the case eventually, but for launch day/week? Doubtful.

@Pay2Win whiners:

CCP is a business. Businesses are in this to make money. Players asked for this. CCP saw a business opportunity. CCP delivered. Don't like it. Don't use it. I'm not using it.

I don't have excess SP. I actually went through and looked to see what I could do without, and then thought, "Chances are, once I get rid of it; CCP will make it so it is useful again."