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pajedas
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-02-09 15:43:07 UTC  |  Edited by: pajedas
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Kalgeroth
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-02-09 15:47:26 UTC
extraction is optional

if you don't want to lose SP, don't extract SP to begin with Cool
Xyle Alduin
Edcorp Industries
#3 - 2016-02-09 15:48:24 UTC
CCP you give us something new, but i want more! if we want to go as far as a 1:1 sp transfer, might as well do a 1:5. i want to take a million sp from my alt and give 5mil to my main! jesus man, your like my daughter. we give her a raise in her allowance by 50% and instead of being happy she starts trying to ask for another 50%.
pajedas
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-02-09 15:49:51 UTC

Don't bother reading the OP, just say something snarky, that helps.

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#5 - 2016-02-09 15:59:28 UTC
thats the next release guys, Skill Extractor Firewall - Safeguard against losing SP during extraction only 2000 aurum - thxbye

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Aptenodytes
Reckless Abandon
#6 - 2016-02-09 16:00:35 UTC
I think the reasons for the diminishing returns are quite clearly explained in the dev blog. Did you read it?
pajedas
Doomheim
#7 - 2016-02-09 16:07:47 UTC
Quote:
We’ve designed it this way so that we protect the prestige associated with long commitment to a single character.


That's just a bunch of BS.

It doesn't realistically work either way. You'd have a bunch of rich old men losing skills in the transfer but young "poor guys" getting 100%.

That's laughable.

We all know that in society the poor working class that's struggling to make ends meet are the ones paying higher interest rates and getting less "bang for the buck".

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Ginnie
Doomheim
#8 - 2016-02-09 16:08:11 UTC
Perhaps a lunatic was simply a minority of one.

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.
Memphis Baas
#9 - 2016-02-09 16:15:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
Yeah absolutely nobody has thought about it, nobody at all.

The point of this wasn't to help us. The point of it was to create income for CCP. They're not even selling pixels, they're selling the ability to move existing pixels around, at a loss.

In any case, SP are "lost" all the time. Any ship that you're not flying, the related SP are useless. If you decide to take a break, the SP's are "lost" to the rest of the playerbase. All of the 2003 accounts with 250 million SPs that you don't see around anymore, they're lost. Any deleted character is lost SP.

This is changing the SP loss from an income loss (people stop logging in or delete their characters, CCP doesn't get subscription money) to an income gain (people destroy SP = aur fees for CCP).

We're also being tricked into throwing crazy amounts of cash at a meaningless number. It's like paying AUR to be able to trade K/D stats, so the leet PVP'ers can extract some of their green and sell it to the PVE folk to offset their red killboard stats.

EDIT: Hey, CCP, let us pay 1000 Aur to gift someone the credit for a kill, so they can brag or erase a loss of lesser value.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#10 - 2016-02-09 16:18:29 UTC
sooo much anger over silly little things which are easily ignored Shocked

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
pajedas
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-02-09 16:25:27 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
sooo much anger over silly little things which are easily ignored Shocked

Because being one of the sheep is so much fun...

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Frank Truck
ACME Mineral and Gas
#12 - 2016-02-09 16:29:36 UTC
Someone didn't read carefully enough.

The DR applies to the total amount TRAINED USING INJECTORS

Not your total SP.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-02-09 16:34:32 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Frank Truck wrote:
Someone didn't read carefully enough.

The DR applies to the total amount TRAINED USING INJECTORS

Not your total SP.


Er... I'm pretty sure that's what he's complaining about. He probably wants to use it as an intracharacter SP remap and is butthurt that it's lossy.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#14 - 2016-02-09 16:40:18 UTC
pajedas wrote:


Has anybody considered the overall impact on the total number of skill points in Eve?


I have.

Not as much impact as people removing massive amounts of SP from the game by quitting.

You want a cause to rally around? Try keeping people in the game instead of whining about skill injection in older characters.

Mr Epeen Cool
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#15 - 2016-02-09 16:46:53 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
pajedas wrote:


Has anybody considered the overall impact on the total number of skill points in Eve?


I have.

Not as much impact as people removing massive amounts of SP from the game by quitting.

You want a cause to rally around? Try keeping people in the game instead of whining about skill injection in older characters.

Mr Epeen Cool


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Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2016-02-09 16:50:14 UTC
The loss is to prevent people from moving sp between characters ad nauseum forever. I don't really understand how you missed that.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#17 - 2016-02-09 16:50:22 UTC
people really are amazing pr*cks sometimes, you give them a hand they'll try to take your whole arm.

you paid CCP to access their server only, you are not entitled beyond that.

Just Add Water
pajedas
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-02-09 17:48:28 UTC
Same handful of trolls still occupy GD and try so hard to hold onto their little piece of nothing.

Don't worry about answering questions constructively, just hammer away with your stupid and very limited troll point of view.

CCP won't step in to moderate unless they perceive a threat to their pocket books.

Obvious broken system is still a broken system.

CCP can lock and or remove this thread now, no help was actually expected.

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Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#19 - 2016-02-09 18:01:35 UTC
pajedas wrote:
Because being one of the sheep is so much fun...


Kind of hard to take someone seriously who calls people sheep.

I have never used more than level 3 learning implants, given I have virtually never been in high sec. I also took a three month break, forgot to cancel one subscription and didn't have anything in the queue. Should I petition CCP because of lost skillpoints for those? After all, they are my god given right, yeah?
pajedas
Doomheim
#20 - 2016-02-09 18:03:31 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
pajedas wrote:
Because being one of the sheep is so much fun...


Kind of hard to take someone seriously who calls people sheep.

I have never used more than level 3 learning implants, given I have virtually never been in high sec. I also took a three month break, forgot to cancel one subscription and didn't have anything in the queue. Should I petition CCP because of lost skillpoints for those? After all, they are my god given right, yeah?

Not calling everyone sheep, just you.

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