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Character Apparel :: Sex Discrimination

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Amallya Trueshot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-01-10 20:17:35 UTC
After posting petition, i was advised by CCP Abraxas to post on forum.


Petition Email:
Quote:
Why in the hell, in 21th century, you only allow a male character to use male clothes and acessories?

I want to use female clothing on my male character.

best regards
Amallya


response:
Quote:
Hi there,

Thank you for contacting customer support. While you bring up a perfectly reasonable point regarding the clothing disparity, I'm afraid we at Customer Support can not deal with game design requests here, but we strongly encourage you to post on the forums on this issue, either under the Features and Ideas section, or the Council of Stellar Management section in order for a CSM member to review your suggestion and potentially bring it to the attention of the developers.

Best regards,

GM Abraxas
EVE Online Customer Support
Asciiz
403 Error - Forbiden
#2 - 2012-01-10 20:22:27 UTC

That's way!!we of the gay movement embrace your post!!
Nocturnal Hunter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-01-10 20:55:02 UTC
i want a mini-skirt Oops
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#4 - 2012-01-10 21:21:26 UTC
I don't think he intended for you to post the Petition response here on the forums; but rather, (if you really wish and were not just trolling the petition system), what you believed was a valid argument to this effect.

Frankly, I don't see the need for it, and think maybe you should read the forum rules and such.
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Amallya Trueshot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-01-10 22:06:21 UTC
troll or not to troll, it's your decision.

i just posted the response of the petition to contextualize. to others see that this idea didn't appear from nothing.
and after all, this is a good point to talk about. and a serious one.

i don't need to read forum rules (i know the rules), because it's perfectly clear that this is a good suggestion to the game.

please post good comments, and constructive ideias.


thanks
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-01-10 22:15:57 UTC
I also object to being forced to wear pants before I can complete character customization.

Asciiz wrote:

That's way!!we of the gay movement embrace your post!!


Statistically most cross-dressers are heterosexual.
Lucjan
Deutzer Freiheit
#7 - 2012-01-10 23:02:42 UTC
+1
I don't think I'll be dawning that miniskirt anytime soon but after a few beers...
B DeLeon
DeLeon Industries
#8 - 2012-01-10 23:07:58 UTC
I don't want to see a Nocturnal Hunter kinda avatar running around in a miniskirt on the future Jita 4-4. Do you?
Nocturnal Hunter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-01-10 23:35:55 UTC
that's quite homophobic Sad

if the scots can, i should too
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2012-01-11 01:47:22 UTC
B DeLeon wrote:
I don't want to see a Nocturnal Hunter kinda avatar running around in a miniskirt on the future Jita 4-4. Do you?



Yes, actually.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#11 - 2012-01-11 02:04:56 UTC
Nocturnal Hunter wrote:
i want a mini-skirt Oops


Me, I want a HulaHoop

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#12 - 2012-01-11 02:25:42 UTC
I might actually use the Nex store if they had those shirtless collar and cuffs with a tie and a top hat that I could wear. P

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Not even once

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-01-11 03:09:37 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
I also object to being forced to wear pants before I can complete character customization.

Asciiz wrote:

That's way!!we of the gay movement embrace your post!!


Statistically most cross-dressers are heterosexual.

like the scottish, or the scandinavians... not the kinda people you would want to insult if you saw them wearing a manskirt...

but yeah, if ANYTHING, at LEAST add Kilts to the NeX store, ebcause even after eleventy bajillion eyars and a dark age, you cant SERIOUSLY expect the scottish genes to have vanished from the New Eden settlers, adn as we all know, the uncontrollabel urge to wear manskirts is built into the scottish man's psyche....

TL;DR we need more scottmen and scott-koreans playing EvE, add kilts and you open EvE up to an entirely new consumer audience that will eb mroe then happy to pillage and plunder all of goonsec and the Lands Formally Known As The New Soviet Union
Jonas Xiamon
#14 - 2012-01-11 03:43:09 UTC
-1 Go play 2nd life ******.

I usally write one of these and then change it a month later when I reread it and decide it sounds stupid.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#15 - 2012-01-11 09:15:25 UTC
Uhm it has to do with the meshing and models baically they havent had time to 'recut' clothing to be either gender.

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Valei Khurelem
#16 - 2012-01-11 09:46:09 UTC
Jonas Xiamon wrote:
-1 Go play 2nd life ******.


This is the best comedy I have ever read.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#17 - 2012-01-11 11:50:17 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Uhm it has to do with the meshing and models baically they havent had time to 'recut' clothing to be either gender.


18months. 70 Devs.


tl;dr: They didn't think of it/ didn't think anyone would want it (boy did they misjudge our love of perversion)

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2012-01-11 12:07:35 UTC
Jonas Xiamon wrote:
-1 Go play 2nd life ******.


Come out of the closet Jonas
Clementina
University of Caille
#19 - 2012-01-11 14:21:57 UTC
I Liked the original post which I guess is the new way to support a topic in Features and Ideas Discussion. They should allow clothing to be worn by either gender regardless of which gender the clothing was intended for.

To ask about Nova Fox's point. I wonder how the clothing should be cut. Should men's pants look too big on a woman? should heels look too small on a man? or the clothing be cut as though it actually fit the avatar correctly when used on an opposite gender avatar?
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#20 - 2012-01-11 17:10:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Clementina wrote:
I Liked the original post which I guess is the new way to support a topic in Features and Ideas Discussion. They should allow clothing to be worn by either gender regardless of which gender the clothing was intended for.

To ask about Nova Fox's point. I wonder how the clothing should be cut. Should men's pants look too big on a woman? should heels look too small on a man? or the clothing be cut as though it actually fit the avatar correctly when used on an opposite gender avatar?


And that there is the design question of the month it would be up to the art director to set that. I wouldnt mind seeing a mix of the three but if comes down to it the cut to fit would have to do.

either way the pants and T-shirts should ahve been all bi-gender to begin with.

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