Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Your idea would be better received in this section of the forums, friend.

Interesting idea, but I feel that missiles are powerful enough, and to increase their effectiveness in PvE would make them overpowered in PvP.

Oh my goodness! Can I believe my eyes? A carebear PvP-er claiming missiles are OP (potentially). I'm stunned.

I agree. Missiles guided by computers, with all the skills required to do this correctly, SHOULD NOT blankly poof after a target is destroyed mid-trajectory. All this valuable (cost of skill books/time invested) INVE$TMENT for missile specialization/launcher specialization/targeting enhancement SHOULD allow the redirection of an in-flight missile ridding us of that pesky GAP in timing that DISQUALIFIES missile users from incursion groups.

Good idea. Thanks for posting this HERE.

Though I like the concept of it, for one thing it might be difficult to apply with what it might require behind the scenes in terms of server performance. For another, I'll admit it's interesting, but not a good addition right now at least for timing.

They neither need a buff nor a nerf. They need to be broken down individually and then put back together...again, individually. Key word of phrase is, "individually." Each missile and launcher needs to be looked at separately from the rest; rockets and lights separately, heavies and HAM's separately, conventional and rapids separately. One missile's problem area is not the same for many of the others, so this insistent urge to continuously treat missiles as though they all need the exact same changes across the board, or that every missile must be either bad or stupidly OP'ed because one or two of them are or a few ships make certain ones so will only make things worse. Some missile systems need help, but not all of them need the same things.

Hopefully, CCP will soon be balancing missile among missile, rather than simply just missile among weapon system like they have been for the most part. Things like halving the torp's item volume, giving a bit more punch to heavies, and such are a good start, but they need much more comprehensive detailing before missiles will be in a better way.

An interesting idea, but CCP cut down the amount of drones you can have in space due to server lag.

Now, lets examine your typical golem pilot. All launchers rapid fire. His target explodes, he has 20 missiles in space that now each have to process several calculations to find out where they are and available targets, and run time left, then find a valid target to prosecute....

Now , and here's a wag (wild arsed guess) multiply that by oh lets say 5000 for online mission running missile users. probably high but its a wag.

That's a bucket full of extra calculations required.

I don't see it coming to a test serve near you any time soon.

Moved to Player Features and Ideas Discussion.

The server has to check where the missile is in space and where all other potential targets are and then select one before assigning a new vector to the missile. It has to do so for every missiles already in flight at the same time because they all lose their targets at the same time of course.

And then you tell me this would not cause a large performance hit.

Or you can tank your ship so a random trigger pop does not kill you...

I am looking for something to make missile boats viable in incursions is my main objective, when they are nearly 100% discredited to me that is a striking balance issue, oftentimes the only reason a missile boat is picked is with a weak fleet or nothing else is available

if you have a suggestion i would love to hear it, also this as stated before would be a unique change and not just a straight buff.

Or maybe make missile apply instant damage like everything else, but that just seems absurd

Or he could create his own incursion fleet composition that uses missiles. I dont do incursions, so i could be wrong. But are missile ships not used mainly because of travel time, or more because the NPCs shoot down the missiles?

If its because of travel time and people wanting to min/max then figure out how to make missile ships work in an incursion for you. Make a fleet and grab some like minded individuals and have at it. No changes needed just for incursions.

i think the point is being missed i am looking for a quality of life change not a game breaking change, also to answer the person saying use the right tool for the job,

you are right using the right tool for the job is very important

but you are missing one thing in almost all cases a gunship or drone ship is used over missile boats because of efficiency. The only true thing that caladari ships excels at is range everything else there is a better substitute except for maybe the tengu which is still very strong in solo pve (but even then you wont ever see this ship in incursions ect)

the only reasons certain missile ships like the tengu golem ect excel isn't necesarily because of missiles but because of the bonuses from the ship itself which make up for the lack luster missiles

To be fair I fly almost exclusively with missile boats because i like them and they are in an ok spot

but no where near amazing