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Dealing with NPC ECM in an assault frigate?

Author
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-02-02 20:58:15 UTC
I have been trying to run Gurista unrated complexes (Vigil/Watch) in an assault frigate (Enyo) and having a lot of problems with ECM. The essential problem is that some rooms have so many cruisers I can't tank the damage long enough to get close to the jammers which tend to stay in the back. With missile-based cruiser, it would not be a problem, but with the Enyo I can't safely get within range of the jammers.

With 2 jammers I can kite and gradually pick off a frigate there, a destroyer there, until the enemy DPS is low enough I can just tank it non-stop and go in, but this takes a long time. It is like, get shields off a frigate, get jammed, run away, go back, look for frigate, retarget it, get armor off frigate, get jammed, kite, etc, for 3 hours.

If the room has 3 jammers, it is more or undoable because they can jam nearly non-stop.

I had a drone, but it got killed at one point, and I was in a remote area of space where there were no drones for sale. Also, even with a drone, I am going to have to run away from full-room aggro and the drone could get ganked. There is a limit to how many extra drones I can carry in my cargo, its just a frigate.

Is ECCM worth trying? I just need to buy enough time to be able to kill 2 or 3 frigates in between jams. If I fit ECCM I will not be cap stable any more.

Estella Osoka
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-02-02 21:04:32 UTC
Try the Ishkur. Maybe the Gallente Command Dessie would be a good option as well.
Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2016-02-02 21:05:44 UTC
Droidster wrote:
I will not be cap stable any more.

Roll

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Omar Alharazaad
Spectrum Reborn
#4 - 2016-02-03 01:55:24 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Try the Ishkur. Maybe the Gallente Command Dessie would be a good option as well.


This.
I don't know about the dessie, but the Ishkur sounds like it would be a better ship for this kind of thing.
Being able to apply full flights of light drones can give you a chance to at least potentially wipe out the frigs with greater speed.
You'll lose some gun DPS, but the situation you describe sounds like one where versatility will yield you better results than boom.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Ace Lapointe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-02-03 04:02:03 UTC
I use an Enyo, I rarely get jammed, I am guessing you are over tanked or running dual Mag Stabilizers? Drop one for a ECCM Backup Array, should fix the issue, that and try to memorize which names mean ECM, it is pretty easy, that way you can get them off the field first.
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-02-03 04:11:24 UTC
Ace Lapointe wrote:
I use an Enyo, I rarely get jammed, I am guessing you are over tanked or running dual Mag Stabilizers? Drop one for a ECCM Backup Array, should fix the issue, that and try to memorize which names mean ECM, it is pretty easy, that way you can get them off the field first.


Are you doing Guristas / Pithium ? Pith sometimes have 3 jammers in a full room, which is not tankable at level 4 (Vigil).

My low slots are one tracking, one cap extender. I can switch out the cap extender.
Ace Lapointe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-02-03 04:28:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Lapointe
Droidster wrote:
Ace Lapointe wrote:
I use an Enyo, I rarely get jammed, I am guessing you are over tanked or running dual Mag Stabilizers? Drop one for a ECCM Backup Array, should fix the issue, that and try to memorize which names mean ECM, it is pretty easy, that way you can get them off the field first.


Are you doing Guristas / Pithium ? Pith sometimes have 3 jammers in a full room, which is not tankable at level 4 (Vigil).

My low slots are one tracking, one cap extender. I can switch out the cap extender.


Yes, not easy, but if you keep speed up with an AB you can tank just fine, never had a problem.

Wait.. Are you shield tanking? Shocked