EVE General Discussion

You would have tackle blobs warping as grids to general areas and people playing "grid fu".

Probably a database thing.

warp to the edge of a system, outermost celestial body, set your microwarpdrive in one direction away from the center of the system until your face splatters on an invisible wall or until your ship tries to climb said invisible wall. answer is, there's nothing out there so why would you want to go there? there's literally NOTHING there lol

you / we are in a fishbowl sadly

The OP isn't talking about safes, obviously we can drop bookmarks anywhere in space and warp back to them.


I'm pretty sure what he's suggesting is being able to type in a range, point your ship in that direction, and punch warp.

You could, for example, type "300km" and point your ship towards an enemy at a tactical, vaulting forward and landing somewhere near them, but not on top of them unless you're skilled / lucky, depending on the speed of the ship you're aimed at and how fast they are moving.

Short warps should be possible this way, I understand "jump calculations" and stuff from a lore standpoint, but if you can see that there's 500 meters of empty space between you and and enemy, your ship shouldn't require a lock to warp from 0 to a point a given distance in front of your ship.

Obviously conceptually there isn't anything wrong with this functionality, I think its a matter of SiSi testing and balancing to see how this could be abused and possibly break some types of fleet warfare.

But its certainly an interesting idea....

i seem to remeber early on in eve you could double click a spot in space and you would warp till your cap ran out.an old corp member had a 1200 au bm out of the system, had to do multiple warps to get there. then ccp introduced scanning and collapsed the size of a system to something like 200 au so probing could find all safe spots

Again, whether is space is empty or not really has no bearing on one's ability to warp to / through something. Not in the lore, not in practice - they even took extra time to show us what the inside of a planetary warp tunnel looks like!

"Jump calculations" and collisions aren't really the issue here - I think it all boils down to whether giving players the ability to warp forward X distance breaks the tactical depth of engagements and kills things like sniper fleets and the like.

This isn't something that can be argued from a theoretical standpoint, the laws of physics have already been broken.....

Whoa, trippy!

I still don't understand why our fancy pants computers that are capable of saving a bookmark, can't compute a bookmark that is 200km in front of the nose of your ship just as easily. It's the same thing more or less, no more computational power needed just simply elementary addition. I maintain that if our computers can save a BM, warp off, and warp back, they should be able to "imagine" a BM 200km in front of you and warp to that.

How are these made? The only way I've been able to find to do it is to keep bookmarks of some signature that was in the system on some date. All the other ways of making deep safes were killed, no?

Pardon? What is this stutter warp you speak of and how does one do it exactly if one were to wish to do such a thing?

Look up Deep Space safe spots. They're incredibly useful. People didn't need titan and super garage alts when they were available; just park it 300AU out of the system. Cynoing in 300AU outside the system also meant you could have your whole fleet loaded and ready before the defenders had any chance to respond.

CCP tossed them for good reason.

Because physics has taught us that in order to travel at apparently superluminal speeds one would have to bend space to align the start and end points, like folding a piece of paper to make two dots match up. In other words, your ship follows a nonlinear path between two points while in warp. It can't just point in a direction and say "go," or else it would end up in a completely random place, possibly not even in this universe.

It would also make it stupidly easy to escape from PvP and go AFK whenever you like, which is bad game design.