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T1 & T2 Logistics Frigates
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Jugular Vein
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#1 - 2016-01-31 22:07:08 UTC
Please increase the drone bays to 15 cubic meters (but keep the bandwidth at 5, of course) so that logistic pilots can continue to whore on killmails when the first one gets smartbombed.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#2 - 2016-02-01 02:29:34 UTC
Compelling.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#3 - 2016-02-01 03:26:02 UTC
Introduce 1 db civilian drones which do almost no damage.

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-02-01 03:49:20 UTC
Stop caring about your meaningless killboard.
Jugular Vein
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2016-02-01 04:17:33 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
Introduce 1 db civilian drones which do almost no damage.


That would be spectacular, and also useful handouts in tutorial missions to new players.
Thorian Baalnorn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-02-01 15:36:31 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Stop caring about your meaningless killboard.



This

Sometimes you are the squirrel and sometimes you are the nut. Today, you are the nut and the squirrel is hungry.
Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
#7 - 2016-02-02 11:18:36 UTC
Jugular Vein wrote:
Arya Regnar wrote:
Introduce 1 db civilian drones which do almost no damage.


That would be spectacular, and also useful handouts in tutorial missions to new players.


+1, esp re the tutorial aspect -- rookie ships hav drone bays, but it costs a lot to fill them. Rookies should be allowed "civilian" drones, at a low price (I think the Hobgoblin manufacturers already do these), with a low dps, to get them into the idea of droning.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-02-02 13:03:06 UTC
Titti Sabezan wrote:
Jugular Vein wrote:
Arya Regnar wrote:
Introduce 1 db civilian drones which do almost no damage.


That would be spectacular, and also useful handouts in tutorial missions to new players.


+1, esp re the tutorial aspect -- rookie ships hav drone bays, but it costs a lot to fill them. Rookies should be allowed "civilian" drones, at a low price (I think the Hobgoblin manufacturers already do these), with a low dps, to get them into the idea of droning.


The biggest rookie ship drone bay can be filled for under 12k ISK with t1 hobgoblin. There is no need to hand out civilian drones when regular ones are priced that low.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#9 - 2016-02-02 13:19:55 UTC
Thorian Baalnorn wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Stop caring about your meaningless killboard.



This


Not empty quoting

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
#10 - 2016-02-03 19:44:11 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:


The biggest rookie ship drone bay can be filled for under 12k ISK with t1 hobgoblin. There is no need to hand out civilian drones when regular ones are priced that low.



Many rookies would find it a stretch to have 12K when they're busy trying not to get gancjed. Plus there is the skillbook, which doesn't come in the tutorial.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-02-03 19:52:53 UTC
Titti Sabezan wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:


The biggest rookie ship drone bay can be filled for under 12k ISK with t1 hobgoblin. There is no need to hand out civilian drones when regular ones are priced that low.



Many rookies would find it a stretch to have 12K when they're busy trying not to get gancjed. Plus there is the skillbook, which doesn't come in the tutorial.


Ganked... by whom? How often does this happen? What's the mean time between ganks for any given rookie?

Or are you just making **** up?

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2016-02-03 22:38:45 UTC
Titti Sabezan wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:


The biggest rookie ship drone bay can be filled for under 12k ISK with t1 hobgoblin. There is no need to hand out civilian drones when regular ones are priced that low.



Many rookies would find it a stretch to have 12K when they're busy trying not to get gancjed. Plus there is the skillbook, which doesn't come in the tutorial.



12k is what, two highsec belt rats?

And yes, drones doesn't come in the tutorial.

Because you start with drones I already trained.
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#13 - 2016-02-04 12:46:41 UTC
can we not rather have save-mails for logi?

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-02-04 15:15:29 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
can we not rather have save-mails for logi?


No because no ship exploded so the game has no event to build a mail on. Unless you think every ship taking damage and not exploding is worthy of a "save mail"?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-02-04 15:16:16 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Titti Sabezan wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:


The biggest rookie ship drone bay can be filled for under 12k ISK with t1 hobgoblin. There is no need to hand out civilian drones when regular ones are priced that low.



Many rookies would find it a stretch to have 12K when they're busy trying not to get gancjed. Plus there is the skillbook, which doesn't come in the tutorial.



12k is what, two highsec belt rats?

And yes, drones doesn't come in the tutorial.

Because you start with drones I already trained.


Why go around looking for belt rats when you can run a lvl 1 mission and get more out of your time?
Iain Cariaba
#16 - 2016-02-04 15:22:16 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Titti Sabezan wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:


The biggest rookie ship drone bay can be filled for under 12k ISK with t1 hobgoblin. There is no need to hand out civilian drones when regular ones are priced that low.



Many rookies would find it a stretch to have 12K when they're busy trying not to get gancjed. Plus there is the skillbook, which doesn't come in the tutorial.



12k is what, two highsec belt rats?

And yes, drones doesn't come in the tutorial.

Because you start with drones I already trained.

IIRC you get like 5mil isk, several ship, and quite a few mods out of the career missions, which are specifically intended for rookies. If a rookie can't come up with 12k isk, then they have some serious issues.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#17 - 2016-02-04 18:11:34 UTC
The game could use 4 more decloaking debris options. Be the first to scatter worthless civilian hornets in you system.

While we're at it, isn't it about time they came out with civilian drone skins an a aurum store? I'd pay 1 aur / civy drone skin. It would add up for sure.