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Void S versus Dread Gurista Antimatter charge
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-01-31 03:05:44 UTC
Is there any reason to prefer Dread Gurista AM over Void S, assuming I have max skills? Ship is an Enyo with Light Neutron Blaster IIs.

The DG does a little bit more DPS, has -50% range penalty versus void -25%, but void has 0.75x falloff modifier. The DG is much more expensive.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2016-01-31 03:27:14 UTC
Droidster wrote:
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The DG does a little bit more DPS, has -50% range penalty versus void -25%, but void has 0.75x falloff modifier. The DG is much more expensive.





You've basically answered your own question.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-01-31 03:55:06 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Droidster wrote:
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The DG does a little bit more DPS, has -50% range penalty versus void -25%, but void has 0.75x falloff modifier. The DG is much more expensive.





You've basically answered your own question.


Go the Bumbfck away. What is your problem?
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#4 - 2016-01-31 07:57:43 UTC
Droidster wrote:
Go the Bumbfck away. What is your problem?


At a guess, like me, Bumblefck can't figure out if you're legit asking a question, or being a forum troll.

A TWELVE year old character constantly asking the kinds questions we usually see from a bright eyed, two month-in newbro causes more than just a little cognitive dissonance.

In any event, he's right. At ISK35/throw for Void S vs ISK24,000/throw for the pirate Antimatter S charges, it becomes a very simple choice for most. The not insignificant point you missed while pondering these matters of great import, was the 0.75x tracking modifier on the T2 blaster ammo. Antimatter tracks better than Void.

That horrifically expensive pirate ammo generally only sees *widespread use* (for want of a better term) at events like the Alliance Tournament. Or when those few who actually possess AT prize ships decide to go derping around in public for hilarity and lulz.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2016-01-31 11:57:08 UTC
Anti matter for tracking small fast **** like drones,
Void for anything you don't need antimatter to track.

Seriously mate, this is basic stuff.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#6 - 2016-01-31 13:27:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Bumblefck
Droidster wrote:



Go the Bumbfck away. What is your problem?




You being personally offensive is not conducive to getting your question answered, nor is it really appropriate to the spirit of the forums.

As both Mephiztopheleze and Ralph have pointed out explicitly (and what I was pointing out implicitly), was that the tracking on the faction ammo is 25% greater than on Void, and that in many cases is enough reason to use it (or another faction variant).

Besides - all of this is moot as you yourself have admitted to me, personally, that you are nothing but a third-rate troll. I don't normally publicise EVE mails to back up a point, but in this case I feel I have to as your nonsense is now just annoying, not amusing in the slightest.


Back under your bridge, now

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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#7 - 2016-01-31 14:14:18 UTC
noone cares about ammo cost.. lol
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2016-01-31 17:31:50 UTC
Droidster wrote:
The DG does a little bit more DPS, has -50% range penalty versus void -25%, but void has 0.75x falloff modifier. The DG is much more expensive.

Void ammo also has a tracking penalty.

How did you Veterans start?
Trader20
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2016-01-31 17:41:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Trader20
Robert Caldera wrote:
noone cares about ammo cost.. lol


PvE/Rat = I don't care

PvP = I do care

You can go ahead and use faction ammo on rats

Or just fly lazors
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#10 - 2016-01-31 18:04:27 UTC
Trader20 wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
noone cares about ammo cost.. lol


PvE/Rat = I care

PvP = I don't care

You can go ahead and use faction ammo on rats

Or just fly lazors



I'm actually just the opposite of this.

PvE: I use T1 ammo

PvP: I use Faction Ammo because I DO CARE.
Trader20
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-01-31 18:10:03 UTC
RavenPaine wrote:
Trader20 wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
noone cares about ammo cost.. lol


PvE/Rat = I care

PvP = I don't care

You can go ahead and use faction ammo on rats

Or just fly lazors



I'm actually just the opposite of this.

PvE: I use T1 ammo

PvP: I use Faction Ammo because I DO CARE.


Yea my bad. What I meant is
I do care what the price when pve/ratting so I use cheaper ammo

And I don't care what the price is when I pvp so I use faction/T2 ammo
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#12 - 2016-01-31 21:56:21 UTC
Ahh, I get it now.
It's hard to convey things in type sometimes.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#13 - 2016-02-03 00:07:57 UTC
typically in pve using faction ammo is worth it as it increases the amount of isk you can make per unit of time more than the cost of the faction ammo.

my main issue with using something like DG antimatter is finding a supply of it. a typical stack might cost more than your ship. Makes sense to fit for something like the alliance tournament, but for ordinary activities I wouldn't use it. I probably would just use CN/FN antimatter as it is much easier to get.

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