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Memphis Baas
#41 - 2016-01-28 14:51:22 UTC
Why just shoot them...

... when you can take a trip to Huttaken (it's right next to Halaima), and write a Book of Truth about the need to have a Permit to inject skills into your brain, and then hire a bunch of "Followers" to run a nice extortion racket and make some money for yourself your non-profit organization named EDOC.
Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
#42 - 2016-01-28 15:04:43 UTC
I think SP-trading is the most offensive change made to EVE since I've been playing the game. It physically pains me that it's happening and I've lost sleep worrying about what it means for EVE's future. When I read feedback on the topic too long, I have to log and walk away.

And yet I'll be buying SP just like everyone else. Don't shoot me for it.

When reality shifts, you can't pretend it hasn't. You either go with the flow or be left behind.

: /

Avvy
Doomheim
#43 - 2016-01-28 17:55:08 UTC
Alea wrote:
Bruce Kemp wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Silver linings and whatnot.
Think of all those PLEX fattened week old newbs flying around in their pimp fit battleships running level 2 and 3 missions.
Now, imagine if you will their mighty indignation at you swiping one of THEIR precious metal scraps.
Hilarity ensues, followed by buckets of tears.

This poses odd opportunities for preying on the stupid.

I for one look forward to dining on space veal.


^^ This Twisted


Most encounters would probably be by chance, I want to actively hunt them as a group or corp activity.



Hmm... you make bitter vets seem sweet in comparison.
Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#44 - 2016-01-28 18:05:01 UTC
Please OP, enough of the elitist claptrap. Attitudes like yours are the very reason this game has such a bad reputation and why it will forever be a minor niche player in the space/sci-fi MMO genre.

Also, post with your main since you apparently have such noble and high-minded ideals about how to play Eve the "right" and "honorable" way. Or are you just another blowhard hypocritical forum warrior vomiting your silly ideas all over the place? Put your isk where your mouth is.
Avvy
Doomheim
#45 - 2016-01-28 18:09:23 UTC
Nick Bete wrote:
Please OP, enough of the elitist claptrap. Attitudes like yours are the very reason this game has such a bad reputation and why it will forever be a minor niche player in the space/sci-fi MMO genre.

Also, post with your main since you apparently have such noble and high-minded ideals about how to play Eve the "right" and "honorable" way. Or are you just another blowhard hypocritical forum warrior vomiting your silly ideas all over the place? Put your isk where your mouth is.



I get a feeling the op is just trolling, especially as 'FEELER' was used at the end of the title.


Probably trying to stir like minded people (if there are any) into some kind of action.
Elukka
Manfios
#46 - 2016-01-28 18:11:46 UTC
It's actually surprising a game as old as EVE hasn't had any sort of catchup mechanic until this. I really don't mind that newer characters aren't forever restricted to lessr SP.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#47 - 2016-01-28 18:14:00 UTC
Elukka wrote:
It's actually surprising a game as old as EVE hasn't had any sort of catchup mechanic until this. I really don't mind that newer characters aren't forever restricted to lessr SP.


isnt character bazaar a catchup mechanic?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Avvy
Doomheim
#48 - 2016-01-28 18:18:47 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Elukka wrote:
It's actually surprising a game as old as EVE hasn't had any sort of catchup mechanic until this. I really don't mind that newer characters aren't forever restricted to lessr SP.


isnt character bazaar a catchup mechanic?


No and yes.

You can catch up skill wise (with the bazaar) to some degree, but the character is never really yours in terms of its complete development.

Sp trading allows catch up to some degree with you controlling its skill development.


So there is a major difference (how major depends how you view your character/s).
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#49 - 2016-01-28 18:22:24 UTC
i see it as the same sort of thing really, you are paying for skills, api will always show you have bought skills either bazaar or skillpacks

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#50 - 2016-01-28 18:30:58 UTC
Alea wrote:
myself being a bitter vet who's jimmies are rustled hard core over SP injection


Alea wrote:
I'm a mature older dude
Avvy
Doomheim
#51 - 2016-01-28 18:42:34 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
i see it as the same sort of thing really, you are paying for skills, api will always show you have bought skills either bazaar or skillpacks



I thought you might Lan.

We have clones which we can download our consciousness into. Why are we taking weeks/months to learn stuff anyway.

Ever see the film Outlander, where he crashes on Earth, set in our past. He uses a machine and downloads how to speak a language in a matter of a couple of minutes.

Learning character skills in this game is all about your choice of skill and time. Time is the major factor but time has nothing to do with your skills. You still get to choose which skills to train with sp trading, without the waiting around with no further input from the player until it finishes.

There's no skill in waiting for a skill to train. So does it matter if it's quicker?
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#52 - 2016-01-28 19:18:47 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
i see it as the same sort of thing really, you are paying for skills, api will always show you have bought skills either bazaar or skillpacks


Agreed, if one overlooks the RP aspect of character development, then both ways of attaining skills are the same.
So having already opened the way with the bazaar, is the only reason for the resistance to SP trading due to players having accepted the bazaar as a permanent part of the game?
Avvy
Doomheim
#53 - 2016-01-28 19:46:10 UTC
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:


So having already opened the way with the bazaar, is the only reason for the resistance to SP trading due to players having accepted the bazaar as a permanent part of the game?



Some people see it as a form of P2W and some are set against all forms of P2W. The bazaar wasn't popular with everyone.

Some people like to have a comfortable lead over others and would prefer to keep that lead.

Some don't like change because they're concerned of what might come next.

Some have played for years and feel that they've really developed the character themselves and feel that people that can short cut things are cheapening their achievement.

So there are various reasons.



However, the purity of the skill queue (community) was damaged with the introduction of the bazaar. Although individually you can maintain that purity if you so wish.
stg slate
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2016-01-28 19:50:54 UTC
Yonis Kador wrote:
It physically pains me that it's happening and I've lost sleep worrying about what it means for EVE's future.


wat?

Do you have your entire retirement fund in CCP stock? Because if the answer is no, then you need to unplug a bit, that level of obsession with a game is beyond unhealthy. We all like internet spaceships, but we don't worry ourselves sick and insomniatic over patches.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#55 - 2016-01-28 19:53:19 UTC
Can I have your SP when you kindly disembark?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2016-01-28 20:07:50 UTC
Add me to your list! I live in a wormhole. Catch me if you can.

Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli

Titan's Lament
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2016-01-28 21:19:08 UTC
I'll inject myself some SP. Gotta round out that 200 mil SP i have.

Been around since the beginning.
Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
#58 - 2016-01-28 21:31:47 UTC
Yonis Kador wrote:
I think SP-trading is the most offensive change made to EVE since I've been playing the game. It physically pains me that it's happening and I've lost sleep worrying about what it means for EVE's future. When I read feedback on the topic too long, I have to log and walk away.


lol
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#59 - 2016-01-28 22:03:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Injecting someones SP into you is really unhealthy, you dont know to who it belonged to. Maybe it was even the 3rd or 4th user of that SP! Who knows what additional stuff you can aquire, like for example depression, addictions, traumatic memories or even some crazy ideas.

Dont be an SP junkie.

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ᴏsᴘʀᴇʏ 🚀

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Avvy
Doomheim
#60 - 2016-01-28 22:09:56 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Injecting someones SP into you is really unhealthy, you dont know to who it belonged to. Maybe it was even the 3rd or 4th user of that SP!

Dont be an SP junkie.



Unless it can effect your consciousness, I wouldn't worry too much, the next clone you would be cured.