Crime & Punishment

-1 for lack of originality. I think I read 3 of this thread.

The CODE is a distributor of satire. Please fight satire with satire. Give us something to enjoy.

This is too dry to consume.

Mo

It could be good content if the AG crowd could stop taking themselves so damn seriously and figure out how to make it funny.

I don't even think it would be hard to pull some funny gank baits... But I think they have the approach all wrong.

Seriously, rethink the "hook" to catch your readers.

If you want to make AG exciting, you have to stop thinking that you are doing this for some comic-book morality.

Make it fun and funny.

I used to hate can flippers and baiters. So I decided to fight against them. Many were just out to pad a killboard, so I range-tanked a badger with a neut on it and started stealing from bait frigates and killing them with a badger.

Who can't enjoy a killboard-diva losing a Ritter to a badger?

This is where AG fails. Your content is just as good as my anti-baiter content was... You just aren't making it funny. Beating CODE isn't enough, they need to sit back afterwards and think "****, he got us good."

You are welcome for my caustic opinion.

Ok, I'll try to give an example of juicy "white hat" content.

I've never fought CODE (with the exception of an ibis fight against Tengu Grib... Which someone put on YouTube. So I will not be posting AG stuff.. No experience with it.

But here is an example of an beating a wardec noob bashing Corp.

I wardecced a local industrial Corp back in 2011 called "the drake project" with the intention of extorting some cash (I never had any isk back then).

We caught them on the first day of the war and cleaned their clocks pretty hard. We were trying to figure out the extortion pitch on day two ( as a matter of principle I always tried to fly small enough to create real risk for me and my team... And to make sure never to demoralize my targets... This keeps the game fun and fighting.) when we figured out that some very mean spirited players had them station camped with a battleship fleet. Another corp had wardecced our legitimate targets.

I consider bringing ships your victim can't hope to beat to be very bad form. This combined with actual mean smacktalk reduces the chance of present and future fights.

I didn't like this new corp.

Not long after we figured out these guys were messing everything up, a member of "the drake project" contacted me and asked what the war was about.

I told him the other Corp contracted us as backup and offered to let him buy the contract out. He obliged. My objective was complete.

However, he seemed like a first rate guy and the other Corp were clearly a bunch of tossers. So I offered, free of further charge, to help the drake project beat the other wardec corp.

We trained and refitted them a bit, explained some of the basics, and then took our marshmallow-soft Indy Corp out to try and crush another wardec Corp. we did not declare war, instead we consulted and provided hunting help and some neutral reps.

The first thing we caught was a mission runner from the aggressor Corp in Funtainen. That got the drake project so excited they could hardly talk on comms. I was smiling as hard as my face could smile.

Then we set a trap a few systems over and got a fight against pretty much the entire aggressor Corp.

The aggressors didn't expect the drake project to have good tactics, decent fits, or t2 neutral reps. (If you read their recount below, it says I shield repped with an oni. I did not, I burned up modules armor rapping a shield tanked Raven).


My marshmallow-soft indy Corp destroyed the aggressor Corp without losing a ship... And about half of them dumped industry to join my Corp or a later project "Concentrated Evil".


The blog post below was written by one of their members 3 years after the fact. I still remember the event clearly because I had so much fun. The guys from the Drake Project remember it too.

This is the mark of good content generation. It was fun and memorable. It inspired players. It was different and surprising. It created interpersonal interactions. Some people lost, some won.

I loved it.


Here is a blog post from a member of the drake project detailing the same story from their side:
http://smug-bastard.blogspot.com/2014_01_01_archive.html?m=1

Seriously, teaching an eager indy corp to fight is one of the most fun things in Eve.

edit: and I totally agree with you about CCP nerfing highsec content by making it harder for us to be bad guys. People don't talk about epic mining ops or that time they ran all those incursion sites. They talk about the times they encountered players out to get them. It's been over six years since the first time I was a target in a wardec. I still remember it. it's been five years since my first battles as part of SKNK, and I can still give you play-by-play on some of those.

Removed a post.

Ok, I've not ganked much (I dabbled in hulkagedon).

I made some bad assumptions in my previous post.

I'd focus on Ganking scouts and scooping ganked loot if I was trying the AG thing.

Maybe bumps could work, catalysts are pretty light.

Thoughts?
Mo

Dom, you don't like being the target audience for CODE?

Did you buy their shares?



I did not know two simple sentences could provoke a Flash flood of tears???!


Wait whilst I get my board to ride it!


Then I will mine the salt pan.....afk.

I mean everything I said with the sincerity rivaling that of Barry Manilow.

Why do you call me a troll? Did you like my story?