Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You seem to be avoiding the questions. Like, all of them.

You have, thus far, suffered exactly no losses as a result of your current wars. Yet, you claim that they make life "nearly impossible". Please reconcile your claim with reality.

Furthermore, you've attempted to refute the advice that has been given by, in short, claiming that it would not effectively protect you. It does not appear that you have attempted to implement the advice, suggesting that your claims are purely speculative and based solely on your own assumptions, and not any evidence, even of the anecdotal variety. Is this the case?

You seem to be avoiding the questions. Like, all of them.

You have, thus far, suffered exactly no losses as a result of your current wars. Yet, you claim that they make life "nearly impossible". Please reconcile your claim with reality.

Furthermore, you've attempted to refute the advice that has been given by, in short, claiming that it would not effectively protect you. It does not appear that you have attempted to implement the advice, suggesting that your claims are purely speculative and based solely on your own assumptions, and not any evidence, even of the anecdotal variety. Is this the case?



Additionally: Generally speaking, it is exceedingly rare that anyone is going to "hunt" you. It generally doesn't happen for the simple reason that the effort:reward ratio is horrible compared to just deccing a bunch of people and hanging out in a high-traffic zone.

You can expect to be "hunted" if you irritate someone (sounds like Archetype. is coming for you ;)), or if the dec is the result of a merc contract. These are comparatively rare forms of war decs.

More commonly:
-You have a completely undefended tower and someone wants to crack that sumbitch open like a loot pinata. This is really MOST common if the tower is actually offline. Shooting at a tower itself is ******* dull. Taking 5 minutes to pop a few labs and assembly arrays is another matter entirely.

This form of wardec can be almost entirely avoided by keeping your tower online, and anchoring even a token assortment of defensive modules.

-It's just a Marmite style "drive by" dec. They're not coming for you. They're not coming for your stuff. They're going to hang out in Jita or Uedama and hope you (or anyone else) come to them.

Roughly 2 minutes of research is more than enough to tell you which you're dealing with.

There are some other assorted formats ("ransom" decs, for instance - those are a real eyeroller, or you have POCOs in place but that obviously doesn't apply to you or any other "newb" corp), but by and large, that's what you're dealing with.

Then why are you playing EVE Online in the first place?

See, something we CAN agree on.

Entities should be allowed to dec as many targets as they want.

My only complaint is there no such thing as stretching yourself too thin with the current mechanics.
Whether you have 1 dec or 100, it doesn't matter as the tactics remain the same.
IE don't undock unless you know you can win.

Er, those bulk war-dec corps get clobbered plenty often. It would be MORE often, but people are too busy refusing to undock. ;)

Wrong.

Marmite is at war with many, many times their number of people. If those people really cared to do something about it, they could. If Marmite's targets actually fought back, Marmite would never be able to undock. But they don't fight back, largely because liars like you keep drumbeating the lie that the defender is helpless.

The defender's inability to play correctly does not mean that Marmite isn't vulnerable, it just means that the people Marmite is deccing are too selfish and disinterested in defending themselves to do anything about it.

Some of the larger alliances will tire of them?

The larger alliances are some of their very best targets.

They finished a war against Goonswarm just a few weeks ago.

Final score:
Marmite: 239 kills (9.75 billion ISK destroyed).
Goons: 2 kills (108 million ISK destroyed).

Similar results against TAPI.

Don't you think it's weird that none of your assumptions are mirrored by reality?

So far it's infinitely (in a very literal sense) more data points than you have provided.

I'll take N=1 over, "N=0 BUT BLOOBLOOBLOOWHAAAAA" any day of the week.

You are literally in the realm of fiction. Your positions are not data based. They are not even anecdote based. They are based on nothing but your assumptions, every one of which has, so far, turned out to be provably false.

What level of scientific rigor do you imagine is needed in a debate with someone who is arguing from a position of pure, unqualified imagination?

Except, as the person claiming that some change is required, YOU have the burden of proof! You're the one making the positive assertion! I'm sampling data merely to illustrate that your position is bollocks. I don't have to have a perfect method, it only has to be better than yours.

And, frankly? Rolling dice or having a fortuneteller read some chicken bones would be better than what you're providing.

War data has a ******* API endpoint.

https://public-crest.eveonline.com/wars/

Anything else you feel like being unequivocally wrong about tonight?