EVE General Discussion

The problem as I see it, is that a capsuleer wanting to create a corporation in New Eden will have a very hard time creating a successful corporation.

EVE Online has been around since 2003. That means that the culture of EVE Online has had nearly sixteen years to grow and change.

In the early days of EVE, a capsuleer could join and create a corporation with a very specific purpose and their purpose would be unique or at the very least one of the first corporations to have that focus.

Today, in 2016, you really can not have a unique corporation. I’m not saying that creating a corporation with your friends to mine or shoot things isn’t great. I’m saying that if you want your corporation to focus on creating ammunition and modules for Gallentean Faction Warfare you will be competing with at least half a dozen corporations if not more.

Is this really an issue?
If this is an issue, is there a way we can fix it?
Should we try to change the way that corporations work on what they focus on?
I’ll leave that up to the community as a whole.

I tend to find the fact that my ideas are already being used. I am constantly re-inventing the wheel instead of working with someone else to make improvements on it. To me, I find it hard to get involved in something that’s been going on for any length of time before I join. I find it hard to find my place in those organizations.

When I first joined EVE I created a corporation because I knew that being a CEO was one of my life long goals as a capsuleer. I wanted to build a community of people that are interested in the same things that I am. Is it bad that our focus isn’t special or unique in one way or another? I don’t think so.

What are your thoughts?

And yet new corps and alliances arise yearly. Look at Brave, or Horde. While they are backed by expirience players etc they were both pretty much new corps with new players making universal impact. Look at EVE - Scout engaging new content before anyone else. Look at WINGSPAN TT, using old tricks in new ways.

You can lie to yourself as to why your corp failed but don't think you can lie to us.

Uh....your "self" is not unique? I hope you don't think I'm being petty by asking that. It's a common fallacy in thinking to believe being something you aren't is how you be unique. You are unique, so being yourself is genuine. That is a good place to start if one presumes to lead people. People don't like to invest time and effort into those who aren't sincere.
Of course, we know that!

Create a corp. from people who want to do what you want to do...yet, you're unique? Sorry. The contradiction should be apparent. How about creating a corporation which facilitates others being like themselves? Who knows what the mix will wind up being? Who knows what that tapestry will be like? You have to make it to know.

I've been a CEO in EVE for humma humma (9) humma humma (years). I've been the head of a Battlefield 2 competitive clan for six years (TWL CAL). I've headed up a kinship in LOTRO for nine years, as well. And, in real life, my main career time was spent managing administrative functions for large organizations; secretaries, file cabinets, correspondence, documentation management and the like. And, as you might well guess, the job is pretty much the same.

That's the thing about management, what you do doesn't vary much, even though who you're managing does all sorts of wild and fabulous things. You ensure it's possible for them to do what they do, be it fly multi-engine aircraft, manufacture disco lighting, or buy and sell real estate. So...when you decide to be a CEO, to a large degree you've decided to not fully participate in the whatever it is those you're managing are doing. That's the hit you take for the team.

Here's some light reading for you:

So now you're a CEO in EVE (you poor fool.)

EVE Corporate Management Guide

Start a corp. Be the CEO, but remember. The only way you're doing this for yourself is if you find doing things for everyone else to the point of not having much time to spend on yourself is what you like to do. If this isn't your cup of tea, join someone else's good corp. Let them worry about it.

A landscape photographer friend of mine has spent a lot of time travelling in order to recapture some of the great photographs of the 20th century. He isn't alone in that. There are a lot of photographers that travel to places like Yosemite to photograph Half Dome for example, even though there's nothing new to create.

He was asked in an interview once why he did that, and he answered that while the greats had the original idea, he had never been to those places before and for him, it was about gaining his own experience and enjoyment.

While we're just talking about things we are doing in a video game, I think the same thing applies. It doesn't matter if it isn't unique. It can still be unique to you.

Being unique is overrated anyway. Find a niche in the corporation market and set yourself to corner it.

Then comes the harder part of actually running your corporation.

This is not a problem.

This is working as intended.

"I am constantly re-inventing the wheel instead of working with someone else to make improvements on it."
Was it Bill Gates that said words along the lines of, do not try to re-invent the wheel, just iterate on it ?

maybe trying to think of advantages rather than disadvantages might aid your cause

Folks,

I really appreciate all of your replies. I apologize for not responding sooner.

I've been thinking a lot about corporations and what I could do. I've decided to go back to the corporation I created when I first joined EVE. I've actually started writing out my plans for that corporation which you can see in this document. I think that I will give it my all and have fun while doing it.

You are forgiven

By the way, the Not Red Don't Shoot acronym - NRDS - made me chuckle

Lol.. trollz :p