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My Retirement Gift To EVE: The Shark Tank

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Ibutho Inkosi
Doomheim
#41 - 2016-01-10 17:47:54 UTC
Entry fee of 500 million for such a generous benefaction - and for one who is touted as the most fabulous scammer in history. Really, the largesse alone is breath taking. However, if generosity indeed it were, the buy-in would be gauche, graceless, ill-mannered, insensitive, and shall we say just a tad on the SUSPECT side?

Pass. But, thanks for thinking of us.

As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#42 - 2016-01-10 18:42:13 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
BuckStrider wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Can i have your stuff?


The entry fee is only 500m isk, then you can have his stuff


son?


Daddy?

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TheDamned
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2016-01-10 18:56:41 UTC
I read the article, and this "contest" appears to either be one final scam for the ages or just a record breaking attempt by a nororious scammer. 500m ISK entry fee? hahahaha

Well played.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#44 - 2016-01-10 19:05:47 UTC
Good show. +1

Remove standings and insurance.
Annemariela Antonela
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2016-01-10 19:30:25 UTC
I mean...

“Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.”

― Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
Bringer of BadNews
Doomheim
#46 - 2016-01-10 19:34:02 UTC
I never heard of this guy....I assume that perhaps 1/100th of his fortune was acquired by scams, the rest by boring care-bearing and null sec ratting, and after 5 years this bro has realized what a time waste it all was and leaves...dude, join low sec pvp and do some real PVP, you will be back in the game in no time.
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#47 - 2016-01-10 20:46:41 UTC
500m entry fee = Blows the cover of the scam

invitation for chribbas service ignored, instead suggesting c shall join the jury

ha ha how unfunny
What?

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#48 - 2016-01-10 21:01:39 UTC
Chribba wrote:
BigCountry wrote:
i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something

I was more thinking both the prize and the entry fee's, so I can verify that there actually is a prize as well. Plus of course have some means of way to verify winners.

But then entries could be voted for on reddit for example with hidden scores, that would also make use of the community to vote for what they would like to see. A kickstarted type of thing for ISK.

/c

Right. The scam wouldn't be in which reputable person holds the funds. It would be in deciding who the funds go to. Can you give us the fine print on that, OP? If we don't have that, I'll just continue throwing my 500mil away on bad NHL and NFL bets.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2016-01-10 21:15:24 UTC
BuckStrider wrote:
If you want to put everyone at ease, the solution is very very simple.

Have Chribba hold onto it.

And have Chribba also decide the winner? Because otherwise it's pointless.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#50 - 2016-01-10 21:19:18 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Chribba wrote:
BigCountry wrote:
i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something

I was more thinking both the prize and the entry fee's, so I can verify that there actually is a prize as well. Plus of course have some means of way to verify winners.

But then entries could be voted for on reddit for example with hidden scores, that would also make use of the community to vote for what they would like to see. A kickstarted type of thing for ISK.

/c

Right. The scam wouldn't be in which reputable person holds the funds. It would be in deciding who the funds go to. Can you give us the fine print on that, OP? If we don't have that, I'll just continue throwing my 500mil away on bad NHL and NFL bets.


Right now Big Country is holding the ISK, if Chribba wants to show up and hold it that's fine by me. I am picking the winner and its not going to be some b.s. idea or something functionally impossible. I have invited to Big Country to not send out the ISK if he thinks foul play is afoot.

But if you are throwing down bets for the NFL put a billion on the Redskins. You never know.
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2016-01-10 21:21:24 UTC
Can goonswarm send me 500,000,000,000 so I can submit an idea? It's going to one of your corpies so this request is completely legit. Help one of your members out indirectly and all that.

I can has blogging skills!
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#52 - 2016-01-10 21:39:36 UTC
Annemariela Antonela wrote:
I mean...


I can't believe I almost didn't click on that. That is the best thing I have seen in weeks, I'm going to frame it and put it by my bed side. Thank you.
Archinquisitor
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#53 - 2016-01-10 21:42:19 UTC
Disclaimer: I am with the Imperium and I will never take any of Scooter's money. I am just putting out a constructive idea no matter if its eligible to win or not.

TLDR: the 2.000.000.000.000 ISK should go to an open SRP fund for new players venturing into nullsec/lowsec/wspace

Long version:

Imho the biggest divide in this community is between nullsec/lowsec/wspace players and highsec 'carebears'. It is my firm belief that the latter group is massively missing out on some of the best content this game has to offer. You like to mine in 0.8 space? That's fine. You like to run missions in Osmon all day? Go ahead. Just know that there is so much more to this game. Let's be honest, compared to other MMOs, Eve has subpar PVE. If one experiences only the PVE aspect it is not unlikely that one will lose interest. If one never experiences the harsh, exhilarating, unforgiving, exciting, heart-pounding PVP and metagame, that's one less happy player to give account about her or his experiences, that's one wasted opportunity to break into a game like no other, that's one less buddy to call friend or foe. The detrimental effect this has at large scale on the game needs not be described, or else this would be another 'Eve is dying' post.

The problem is, people are risk adverse by human nature. Even in a lab experiment without any real life consequences. People avoid loss, even if it is only space pixels. So let's take away that fear. Replace their losses at 150%. (Gasp!) Make them fear losing out because they are NOT risking their ships. Don't make PVP a losing game for them. Don't make it a null sum play. Make it a winning game.

So install a 2.000.000.000.000 ISK ship replacement fund open to everyone. With a simple web interface where people can post their lossmails. Player age <90 days and system sec <0.5 and player limit of 100 mil not yet met? Instant ISK transfer. (You might want to fine tune these.)

I hear your screams. Will this be gamed? Hell, yes. Will we see alts made to exploit this? Hopefully. Will someone lose ship after ship to get rich? Shame on him.

In the worst case, there will be endless content on the borders of highsec.

In the best case, that's 20.000 new PVPers.

If you find this idea lacking or sucking, great, post yours, post a better one.
Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
#54 - 2016-01-10 22:21:31 UTC
Archinquisitor wrote:
...I will never take any of Scooter's money.

Nor will anyone else.

Rothbard's Casino
Archinquisitor
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2016-01-10 22:25:51 UTC
Edwin Rothbard wrote:
Archinquisitor wrote:
...I will never take any of Scooter's money.

Nor will anyone else.


I don't care if it's a scam or not, and neither should you.
2,000,000,000,000 ISK is bound to get some attention, so it's a good catalyst for idea generation.
And if you are afraid someone could steal 'your' idea about a space pixel game, you need to get real.
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2016-01-10 23:11:58 UTC
Operation Magic School Bus will not put forward isk better used to help the newbros but IF you decide what we have been doing for the past year is worthy. Great

If not . . . well, at least I will not have wasted donor funds on a bad bet.

and this does stink to high heaven of being a bad bet

m

Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)/¯
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#57 - 2016-01-10 23:42:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Mortlake
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Can i have your stuff?


Can I have it when you've finished with it?

Don't mind if it's sticky.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#58 - 2016-01-11 01:03:45 UTC
"Damn, I've completely run out of ideas...
wait! I'll get people to send me money to consider their ideas!"
Send it all to PLEX4Good.
All of it.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
morion
Lighting Build
#59 - 2016-01-11 01:41:07 UTC
If real i will offer to enter. I can offer to continue my in game work.
and move it forward into a solution and and price the global ice market in new interesting ways
including exstreamly fun wavy rides fun for the WHOLE FAMILY.
take a nightmarish market ride with a newtral bias ...
lasting for ever ( ;
the 500m i have to pass on that isk would come from isk curently buying back sacred blood to keep our world in ratio ballence.
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2016-01-11 02:26:50 UTC
Archinquisitor wrote:

Imho the biggest divide in this community is between nullsec/lowsec/wspace players and highsec 'carebears'. It is my firm belief that the latter group is massively missing out on some of the best content this game has to offer. You like to mine in 0.8 space? That's fine. You like to run missions in Osmon all day? Go ahead. Just know that there is so much more to this game.


I tried going into null once. Over 9,000 svipuls jumped on me within a minute of arriving. I thought I did a good job of checking the map ahead of time and I didn't see that many people logged in in the map in that or the surrounding systems combined. While I know I did several things wrong, I'm not 100% sure what they were and I'm not keen to repeat the experience.

That's the biggest problem. Not being able to easily answer what I did wrong. The process of having to read too many wikis and watch too many youtube vids to answer that is daunting.

I think the biggest barrier to entry for null is the fact that you have to be willing to lose a number of ships/pods early on to learn how to survive there. Either those losses drive you to try harder or move on for easier pastures were you aren't getting swarmed before you can get your bearings. Lyte over at riot is fond of reminding people that bad experiences weigh twice as much as good ones. Also first impressions matter a lot. So for the typical newbie to null, some of your early impressions will be of your butt getting kicked by a dozen ships working as a team, each one costing 4-10 times more than what you are currently flying. That's enough to drive at least some people back to high sec and make them bitter towards going into null.

I'm not saying null is terrible and I'm sure a lot of people have lots of fun there. However it does have a barrier to entry and a bit of a learning curve until you figure out how to fly relatively smart. Either you get over that barrier before getting frustrated or you head back to high sec. Since I have no idea how long its going to take me to have fun there, nor how much isk I'm going to be flushing down the crapper in doing. So why go back if I can just expect to lose and not have fun in the process? If I could have fun, that'd be something else. But I didn't have any fun the last time I tried null. Or the time before that. Or the time before that.

I can has blogging skills!