EVE General Discussion

Edit:
A quote from a year ago.

(I spent most of my campaign time last year explaining to High Sec people what CSM is and what they do. That was obviously only a small portion of people because I can't reach them as there are so many solar systems and time zones.)

CCP could put CSM info into Local same as a MoTD



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Once again, we are approaching the elections for the CSM.

Once again, it will no doubt be largely Goons appointed members.

Once again, we shall have the minority (Null Sec) speaking for the majority (High Sec).

Once again, we will be voting for people people based on what tribe they are in (coalition)

... and yet again, we will be thinking about ourselves when we do this; without regard for whether they actually have the skills and neutral mindset to do a good job.

Thus our carousel will keep on spinning, CCP shall have to take what the CSM put forward with a bucket of salt.
(It seemed from this past year that even when the CSM was being positive and trying to put the brakes on some really bone-headed ideas; that they were completely ignored.)

You can point to a few exceptions yes, like some of the stuff Sugar Kyle has done.
You can harp on about how it is better than nothing and we haven't had another Incarna since we have had the CSM came about.
You can also go on about the daily work they do and ignore why they are motivated to be there and the influence they try and exert.

However, I want you to ask yourselves this:

- Why are you voting for that person?
- Is the CSM influence more gradual and insidious?
- Is the CSM too full of peacocks or selfish agendas to be taken seriously by CCP?
- Is CSM largely a lobby group?
- How can the whole process be improved?
- Are these questions too late?
( ... because the ballot pages are made, CCP's mind is made up and the rest of the year people don't care.)

Once again, the unproven and rather silly notion that there is a “highsec majority” (to say nothing of the outright laughable idea of there being a coherent highsec affiliation that sits in opposition of some equally coherent nullsec affiliation) is bandied about.

Seriously, all of us who live in Null-Sec rarely are on the same page, but High-Sec is worse. So many opinions held by so many people and all of them "The Right Way to do High-Sec".

Welcome to politics. An organized group with unified desires and goals will trounce an unorganized, disparate mass of people any day.

No offense, but this is the most pseudo-intellectual bullshit that I've read this year.

Just one problem — in fact, the exact same problem as with all those inane claims: it doesn't display players. The mythical majority is just that: a myth, at best born out of bad maths, at worst born out of sheer ignorance and wishful thinking.

I don't get why they don't just have it so before you vote you declare your a "high sec player," "wormhole player," ect and then just put people into the csm as part of parties or whatever. Make the number of members divisible by 4 (for each major group) and put for example 3 people in to represent each aspect of the game. We would also see where the majority of the player base resides and they can focus on the areas where the most people are.

You maybe forgot desperation and butthurt?

What the "high sec partisans" never face is that a lot of high sec is just our alts. And even worse than that (from their perspective) is that of those who are real high sec players, many of them LIKE null, aspire to null (or low or WH gameplay) and vote for null candidates.

The most vocal high sec posters here suffer from that 'truly false consensus' problem where they think everyone in high sec thinks like them, when in fact their views are just fringe idiocy that are unpopular EVEN in high sec.

*cough*

yes we need to start asking the real questions

why haven't we seen any councilors birth certificates
is the csm actually a cover for an extraterrestrial nacho smuggling operation
could the csm voting process be improved with a peacock wrestling bonus round
is there confirmation no csm x members were blood-drinking lizards, and if not, why not
why won't ccp publically acknowledge independant reports csm voting causes rashes

e: why are you voting for that person