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Olmecu
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-01-06 13:08:03 UTC
Hello,

After doing some missions and exploration I want to try out the DED sites and escalations.

Since I have no experience at all with this part of the game, I was wondering if a Scorpion Navy Issue is a good ship to start running the DED sites. I got 2 Angel's Red Light District notifications quite quickly. The SNI is the only good ship I have for pvE currently. Have some money, but lack the skills to fly a Tengu or a Gila, which seem to be really popular for this activity.

So, basically, I am asking for your recommendations on what to train and what ship(s) should I aim for in order to have fun and run them fast :) Also, if it is a good idea to risk my SNI being blown up (if there is such a risk) in my first experience in that Red Light District :)


Thanks.
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
#2 - 2016-01-06 13:22:59 UTC
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I am asking for your recommendations on what to train and what ship(s) should I aim for in order to have fun and run them fast

Me personally, i run them in a rattlesnake. But i think any well fit battleship shouldn't have a problem (if you lack the skills for a gila or tech3).

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... to risk my SNI being blown up (if there is such a risk) in my first experience in that Red Light District

There are no scrams in this site, so you can warp away any time.

Proposal: >>> New Inventory / Item Hangar <<<
Olmecu
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-01-07 07:50:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Olmecu
Thank you very much for your answer. I did try it with my SNI, struggled a bit, but maybe it was due to wrong fitting...

Anyway, so Gila or T3 cruiser is the way to go for the escalations (although, for me, Ashimmu is the best looking :P).
Daku Otsito
Otsito Response Team
#4 - 2016-01-07 09:25:03 UTC
well honestly tengu or gila are always said to be used but that's only for one reason and thats travel (not getting caught and warping fast etc). Inside the site a BS will be better for clearing since it has more dps more tank greater range and so on, the SNI i presume struggled because there are a lot of frigs on the first room so you have to adjust for dmg application however if properly skilled it should clear the site faster than a gila or tengu, my choice would be a raven navy if it's only a few jumps over and a gila for bigger distances.

Best of all ? get a machariel, if you are in blue territory or hs that's the best ship for it, moves like a cruiser and warps like one but has dmg and tank of a Battleship ( which it is, although i forget it at times Blink)
Olmecu
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-01-07 12:24:34 UTC
Hmm, yes, a Machariel would be very nice :)

On the other hand, reading your posts, I was considering this: train Gila first and then move towards Tengu, since they share quite a few of the needed skills and so invest the same time (more or less) in 2 ships instead of a single one (Machariel)? Also, isn't a Gila/Tengu more... versatile than a Machariel? And cost-related I think that Machariel would be the most expensive of them all?

Any information and if you can link some nice fits for those ships would be be very much appreciated, in order to make an idea about various things :)

Thanks!
Daku Otsito
Otsito Response Team
#6 - 2016-01-07 15:11:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Daku Otsito
funnily enough the machariel isn't the most expensive (depending on the area you buy the ship from)

[Machariel, angel muncher]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas Explosive Deflection Field
100MN Afterburner II

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
Heavy Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Berserker II x4
Warrior II x5

2% CPU Implant needed or drop a gyro for a faction one, ( and yes its a lvl 4 mach fit with a neut added for peeveepee when it finds you) it will murder things so fast its epic and you can tank that site sooo easy,

the gila is the cheaper one,

[Gila, ABC]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Drone Navigation Computer II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
[empty high slot]
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


and lastly tengu the most expensive of them all,

[Tengu, panzer]
Ballistic Control System II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Gistum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
10MN Afterburner II
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

mind you you can make tengu much more tankier but for the 5/10 is actually overtanked

Combat wise the mach is superior in any way possible, heck even in warp speed but ultimately the choice is yours

disclaimer: all the fits are tested and work i'm no EFT warrior... (well maybe a little)
Olmecu
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-01-08 07:36:12 UTC
Thank you so very much! Big smile
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#8 - 2016-01-12 07:17:05 UTC
Personally the issue is other player more than the sites themselves.

Unless you are getting these sites as escalations from HS anoms they will always be in low sec (Sounds like you are running HS anoms if you are getting notifications) . A PVE battleship is a big fat target for Low Sec pirates.

Hacs, T3s or Pirate cruisers are the way to go.

PS, the Angel 6/10 is a pain . They almost always end up in Null sec ( 2 part sites) and the overseer is a pain.