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Why I choose to play solo.

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Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#21 - 2016-01-06 22:21:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Isaac Armer
Chief Serious wrote:
I don't have an attitude, and I'm not full of rage and ranting on the forums, but here you go making assumptions again. I simply stated my experience, and felt like letting the whole community know why I am not joining a corporation. And as far as setting up comms and sign up at forums and "Corp /Guild" websites, I shouldn't HAVE to, I don't want to, and I wont, and there is NO NEED whatsoever that any Corp/Guild would need me to sign up on a website that I will NEVER visit after the initial sign up. I am here to play a game, and to play it my way, not to be under the rule of an iron fist, not to have every second of every action watched as if I am a suicidal maniac that might murder everyone, steal everything, blow it up, then kill myself.

I have been a part of ALOT of MMO's, from WoW, to GW2, to ESO, and a million in between, and never have I been required to go to such lengths to join a guild/corp/alliance w/e you want to call it. So far in EVE, 3 different major Corps, 3 different yet very similar experiences.


I must have read a different thread than this one if it wasn't nothing but a giant rant.

And it's ironic that you said you didn't have an attitude and respond with another rant. Major corps have rules for a reason. Join a smaller/more relaxed one. You know, learning from prior experience?

EDIT: and no, you can't join mine Big smile
Griff Hardstone
Capricornus Industries
#22 - 2016-01-06 22:24:18 UTC
I agree with a lot of what Chief stated. It's one of the reasons I can't stay active in Eve. I've recently came back and the two experiences I've had with joining a corps wasn't good.
I'm partially deaf with severe tinnitus and one of the corps said I had to use TS. After the fourth or fifth time I said "Huh?" there was a big sigh and they typed it out. I told them of this before joining and was told "That won't be a problem".

As for the "social" part of the corps experience, I've yet to see it. I would log on and corp chat would be scrolling. As soon as I said o/ in chat, it died. I would try to talk and I even offered to make items for the corp, just let me know......nothing.

Recruiters recruit and talk your ears off then once your in the corp, well I have more meaningful conversations with my cat then I do in corp chat.
Chief Serious
Doomheim
#23 - 2016-01-06 22:29:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Chief Serious
Griff Hardstone wrote:
I agree with a lot of what Chief stated. It's one of the reasons I can't stay active in Eve. I've recently came back and the two experiences I've had with joining a corps wasn't good.
I'm partially deaf with severe tinnitus and one of the corps said I had to use TS. After the fourth or fifth time I said "Huh?" there was a big sigh and they typed it out. I told them of this before joining and was told "That won't be a problem".

As for the "social" part of the corps experience, I've yet to see it. I would log on and corp chat would be scrolling. As soon as I said o/ in chat, it died. I would try to talk and I even offered to make items for the corp, just let me know......nothing.

Recruiters recruit and talk your ears off then once your in the corp, well I have more meaningful conversations with my cat then I do in corp chat.


EXACTLY THIS! And then when you start asking questions because you're unsure, you get a big sigh and they start getting an attitude.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#24 - 2016-01-06 22:33:05 UTC
Chief Serious wrote:
EXACTLY THIS! And then when you start asking questions because you're unsure, you get a big sigh and they start getting an attitude.

These are bad Corps. There are plenty out there that aren't like that.

It would be great if there were more tools available to be able to filter and check Corps out before applying, but like any game, most of us just want to have fun. Why would we play otherwise.

There are a lot of good Corps out there that make the game fun.
Arya Ikahrus
#25 - 2016-01-06 22:38:22 UTC
A lot of HS corps are rubbish.

Mine was pretty good though, shame it died. Oh well, carefree life of doing what I want for me now. Liberating in a way.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#26 - 2016-01-06 22:44:50 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
There are a lot of good Corps out there that make the game fun.

Yep.

There's nothing inherently wrong with a solo-life in EVE. I played in my own corps for a good three years. But there came a time when I wanted a taste of the bigger stuff, T3 fleets, capital fights and other fun stuff you just can't get solo.

So I did my homework and started looking around, mostly the forums. Looking for a group of people or individuals who I thought looked like a lot of fun to play with and who's corp got in on a lot of the big action that I was looking for. I found a group and took the plunge, haven't looked back since and have followed friends from that corp onto other corps ever since.

There's been ups/downs and falling in/outs every now and then. But that's to be expected in any group of people, no matter how much you love them. Just part of being around other humans.

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Griff Hardstone
Capricornus Industries
#27 - 2016-01-06 22:47:35 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:

These are bad Corps. There are plenty out there that aren't like that.


I was informed that corps look at your employment history and if they see you have been in multiple corps then it raises a flag (What doesn't raise a flag?!)
Joining a corp is like a blind date you met on the internet, she sounds hot but you just can't get past the adams apple and the 5 o'clock shadow standing in front of you. Shocked

Recruiters throw out a mean sales pitch (cookies, gerbils, awesome people, very active) which all may be true but when you log on for 10 days straight to see 30+ people online and nobody talking or be informed "We are on another channel talking" Can I join that channel? (queue crickets chirping).
Chief Serious
Doomheim
#28 - 2016-01-06 22:56:21 UTC
Griff Hardstone wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:

These are bad Corps. There are plenty out there that aren't like that.


I was informed that corps look at your employment history and if they see you have been in multiple corps then it raises a flag (What doesn't raise a flag?!)
Joining a corp is like a blind date you met on the internet, she sounds hot but you just can't get past the adams apple and the 5 o'clock shadow standing in front of you. Shocked

Recruiters throw out a mean sales pitch (cookies, gerbils, awesome people, very active) which all may be true but when you log on for 10 days straight to see 30+ people online and nobody talking or be informed "We are on another channel talking" Can I join that channel? (queue crickets chirping).






Everything seems to raise flags, all major Corps think you're out to get them and tear down their entire Empire. You are a spy, you are a "bad guy" until you prove that all you do is sit in asteroid belts all day mining. It's like they want you so they add numbers to their ranks, but they don't want you around.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#29 - 2016-01-06 23:00:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Griff Hardstone wrote:
I was informed that corps look at your employment history and if they see you have been in multiple corps then it raises a flag (What doesn't raise a flag?!)
Joining a corp is like a blind date you met on the internet, she sounds hot but you just can't get past the adams apple and the 5 o'clock shadow standing in front of you. Shocked

Recruiters throw out a mean sales pitch (cookies, gerbils, awesome people, very active) which all may be true but when you log on for 10 days straight to see 30+ people online and nobody talking or be informed "We are on another channel talking" Can I join that channel? (queue crickets chirping).

There's no one set of behavior that applies to all recruiters or all Corps. Other players are no different to you at the core. We play the game for enjoyment.

As an alternative example, I'm a recruiter and Alliance Director.

If you want to join our Corp, I ask 2 simple questions:

1. Are you AU/EU timezone
2. Do you want to pvp

That's it. If the answer to either of those is no, then I recommend looking elsewhere, not because we don't want you, but because we probably cant provide a lot of content for you and that won't be fun for you.

If yes, then apply or I'll even send you an invite.

We don't care for API checks. We are a pvp Alliance. If someone wants to join to awox, then that's just one fight where we won't have to go looking for something to shoot. If a spy wants to join, then we don't care. There are other spies in the Alliance already.

No compulsory services to join. No compulsory activities at all and low tax. Different people in the Alliance generate content and everyone is free to consume it or leave it as they please. We provide services for our members (forum, Slack, TS Server), but none of it is compulsory.

We aren't unique. There are a lot of Corps that operate in a similar way.
lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
#30 - 2016-01-06 23:07:18 UTC  |  Edited by: lmmortalist
The OP pretty much described the first reason why I'm hesitant about joining corps / playing with other people. Being not able to listen to music because of the mandatory comms etc. bullshit was pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Another one I'd add to the same category are the idiotic rules combined with senseless killboard efficiency whoring.

The second major reason I prefer to play solo is that I don't want to be dependant on anyone but me myself. Hell, I can't even get satisfaction out of shooting people in fleets simply because I feel like I'm not needed. This of course goes against the very catchphrase of Eve which went something like: "even the smallest T1 frig tackler matters". I refuse to believe that, every man is replaceable. Especially when it comes to pushing F1 and anchoring around someone in a fleet.

Solo kills, solo pvp, solo everything is just so much more cooler I find it hard to describe with mere words.

As for the social aspect of this game: I have the chat channels and the forums. Thats quite enough for me.
Demica Diaz
SE-1
#31 - 2016-01-06 23:32:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Demica Diaz
I agree with OP about some EVE Online corp recruitment policies. But not all of them are out there to think you are bad guy and not all treat you like trash. Some that ask you limited API and some other info might be worth the effort. I wouldnt be here playing EVE Online if I didnt join EVE-Uni and met its wonderful people back in 2011 - 2012.

Chief Serious wrote:
Many people say, the only way to play EVE Online is in a Corporation...

Many say that PvP is only way to play EVE Online...
Some claim that ISK / h is all that matters in EVE Online...
Others tell you that being cold hearted rascal is the only way to play EVE Online...

Damn, I do nor am none of that. I must playing wrong! Then why I still play EVE Online? Oh yeah, because I love to play the way I choose to play and dont care what other think. Bear
Solecist Project
#32 - 2016-01-06 23:35:37 UTC
You did great, great work with that face, Demica!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#33 - 2016-01-06 23:44:43 UTC
Yeah, non-stop comms just don't work out. Some days I just don't feel like talking to anyone at all. People can get abusive real fast when you ask them for space.
ISD Buldath
#34 - 2016-01-07 00:04:02 UTC
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3. Ranting is prohibited.

A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.


While I like how this is written, And got some valid points, its still a Rant. You do not offer any suggestions on how to Fix it, You dont specifically point out what is Wrong and why it is wrong, the list goes on. Therefor, It gets locked.

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