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Why I choose to play solo.

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Chief Serious
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-01-06 20:45:06 UTC
Many people say, the only way to play EVE Online is in a Corporation, I say, That's a damned lie! Now keep in mind, I'm no pro, and I haven't been playing for 10+ years, in fact, I've been playing for less than a year, but I got a pretty darn good grasp of the game, it isn't quite as complicated as some make it out to be. I do mostly mining and industrial work, and I make pretty good money doing it too using 5 accounts, could I make more in low/null, yep sure could, will I go there? Nope not a chance, in my opinion it's stupid, it's like painting a big target on your hull and saying here I am, shoot me and destroy what I work for.

So to get to the point, there are a number of reason's I don't join a Corp and play solo only, and don't think I haven't tried to join a Corp, I have, multiple times. First up is the signing up process. The first time I attempt to join a Corp I am asked multiple questions, where have I been, what do I do, who have I been involved with, what do I expect, what can I offer so on, your typical "interview" questions. After and IF I pass the interview process then I am accepted into the Corp, and before any more info is given, and before I can go to "their system" I have to go to a billion and a half websites and sign up, First their website, then jabber, then mumble, oh and don't forget, you must have TeamSpeak, some even have some other websites no one has ever heard of and you go sign up there. Then after you sign up, you have to go put in additional info, your API, make an introduction on the forums, and YOU MUST BE SOCIAL on teamspeak. I refuse to do this process, not only do I not want my information out there such as my screen names, my emails and my passwords, but this process is so tedious it can take several hours and simply just isn't worth my time.

BEWARE! Every Corporation thinks you're out to destroy them, and trust me, no matter how many mining lasers you have, that isn't going to happen. Here comes the API argument, and believe me, I get it, I understand, but at the same time, this is too much information. I tell you what, let me paint a different picture for you. Go find a piece of paper, write down your address, take inventory of everything you have in your house or apartment, and I mean EVERYTHING even those sex toys in the box under your bed, write down your bank account information, not your routing number, but just every single transaction you have ever made, your current available balance, list every place you visit, the bar, the golf course, the grocery store, the truckstop known for it's glory holes, make copies of all your personal letters and emails, all the phone numbers of all your friends and family, and while you're at it, write down any personal thoughts no matter how perverted they may be, then walk down the street and hand this piece of paper to 10 different people you don't know and have never met. This is what an API is. And I refuse to give it to anyone... anymore just for the simple matter of GIVE ME SOME DAMN PRIVACY!

A corporation expects more from you, than you do from them. In fact don't expect anything from a corporation, because you don't get anything from them. You are there strictly for them. If you mine, they take a cut, if you go out on a combat op with them, you're there to be one extra ship, you get nothing back except a note that says I did X number of Ops this month. Don't get me wrong it can be fun, but there is little to no benefit for you, and don't even say "no or lower" taxes is a benefit because the cost of taxes is so minuscule as it is doesn't matter whether it's 0% or 11% the expense either way isn't much. At least with a job, at the end of the week you get a pay check, you get something for your work. Oh and don't say protection either, because you don't get that, not even as a helpless miner out in the belts mining 250k resources for your corp this week.

This is why I do, and likely always will play solo.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#2 - 2016-01-06 20:48:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
I play solo because I am antisocial. But being a liar, I prefer to blame it on other people, so I tell everyone they aren't good enough to fly with me. Still everyone badgered me to join a corp because EvE is an MMO, so I gave into peer pressure and joined a corp I made. I'm the only player in the corp, but hey! I'm in a corp!

Sometimes I play with myself. Sometimes I play with my other self.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#3 - 2016-01-06 20:59:41 UTC
Solecist Project
#4 - 2016-01-06 21:16:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
OP ... while I dislike the parted wall o' text ...
... do I agree on the content ... mostly.

Mandatory voicecoms my ass, especially.
If I wanted to talk to ... people ... I'd to that in real life.
The last thing I want to do! :D

You are not alone. :)
And you do not need a corp to play with others at all! (:

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Poddington Bare
Black Mount Industrial
Breakpoint.
#5 - 2016-01-06 21:18:55 UTC
I also play solo.

But not by choice really. It's because I'm an intolerable asshat.
Jarsoom Blade
Blade's Legion
#6 - 2016-01-06 21:27:06 UTC
How did you know about that box under my bed!?

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#7 - 2016-01-06 21:34:29 UTC
OP sounds like he needs to play solo after sitting on his hand(s) until they're numb.




There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#8 - 2016-01-06 21:38:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Many people say, the only was to play EVE Online solo is to scream about it on the forum for everyone to read, I say, That's a damned lie!

The forum is just as good a place as any to practice not interacting with people, yet here you are interacting.

Just go play solo. It doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks or says. Your time is yours to use how you want.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#9 - 2016-01-06 21:40:32 UTC
Poddington Bare wrote:
I also play solo.

But not by choice really. It's because I'm an intolerable asshat.
Add misanthrope to that and you get the reason that I also mostly play solo.

Mr Epeen Cool
Bolsa
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-01-06 21:41:08 UTC
I totally agree with Chief Serious, if I join a corp they should provided proof there financially viable and worthy of my company Twisted
Chief Serious
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-01-06 21:46:03 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Many people say, the only was to play solo is to scream about it on the forum for everyone to read, I say, That's a damned lie!

The forum is just as good a place as any to practice not interacting with people, yet here you are interacting.

Just go play solo. It doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks or says. Your time is yours to use how you want.


No need to be a ****, but I can see why you're here on the forums.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#12 - 2016-01-06 21:48:35 UTC
Chief Serious wrote:
No need to be a ****

Sorry, I thought that's what this thread was about.

My apologies.
Pix Severus
Empty You
#13 - 2016-01-06 21:52:00 UTC
I agree with a lot of what you say, Chief, but don't let a couple of bad experiences put you off the idea of corps altogether. Not all corps have such a convoluted induction process. You also seem to not fully understand what you get out of a corp, and list the "rewards" you should be getting like it's a shopping list. There are only two things that corps can provide that are of any value whatsoever, those are friendship and a common goal to work towards.

I'm not saying you can't make friends outside of a corp, but it is a lot easier to meet like-minded people when you join a corp that is focused on the activities you enjoy. Some of my fondest memories of this game are from when I was in a corp, all those years ago.

Having said all that, I mostly play solo these days. After all, if I'm not playing EVE, you'll probably find me playing X3: Terran Conflict, which is practically EVE Offline anyway. I have friends though, ex-corp members, people I've met on my journey through EVE, and this forum itself, and I do my best to.. interact with as many players as possible, instead of just silently running PvE activities all day long.

Regarding API keys, I once applied to a corp that required a full API to join, I gave them a limited one and they didn't even check it, they let me in the following day. From some of the old safari stories, this is a common occurrence.

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Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#14 - 2016-01-06 21:54:26 UTC
Chief Serious wrote:
No need to be a ****, but I can see why you're here on the forums.


You were in a corp called 'solo miners association' that has one member and then in another corp for a single day. You're judging every corp in EVE based on one day of being in a single corp? Hmm...
Chief Serious
Doomheim
#15 - 2016-01-06 21:58:32 UTC
Isaac Armer wrote:
Chief Serious wrote:
No need to be a ****, but I can see why you're here on the forums.


You were in a corp called 'solo miners association' that has one member and then in another corp for a single day. You're judging every corp in EVE based on one day of being in a single corp? Hmm...


Jumping to conclusions? Solo Miners Association was my Corp that made purely for the benefit of compressed ore and tossed it off to an alt that I don't have active any longer, and the other Corp for a day was one of 3 Corp experiences, perhaps you missed the, "I have 5 accounts" part of the thread.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#16 - 2016-01-06 22:03:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Chief Serious wrote:
[Jumping to conclusions? Solo Miners Association was my Corp that made purely for the benefit of compressed ore and tossed it off to an alt that I don't have active any longer, and the other Corp for a day was one of 3 Corp experiences, perhaps you missed the, "I have 5 accounts" part of the thread.

I understand where you are coming from. Not everyone wants to be anally probed and then feel like they are getting it even more after they join a space guild.

That's totally understandable and many people have expressed it, one of the best being this:

One of Us

But, there are actually just as many Corps that are more like the top of that picture than the bottom and who do strive to provide content for their members.

Like any group of people, it's usually better when everyone is contributing to creating content and things for others to do, but not all Corps just use you and give nothing in return. They are just the bad ones.

The good ones do make the game more enjoyable, but it's certainly not the only way to play.
Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#17 - 2016-01-06 22:07:16 UTC
Chief Serious wrote:
Jumping to conclusions? Solo Miners Association was my Corp that made purely for the benefit of compressed ore and tossed it off to an alt that I don't have active any longer, and the other Corp for a day was one of 3 Corp experiences, perhaps you missed the, "I have 5 accounts" part of the thread.


Ok, so three corps out of thousands. Still.

I've had exactly two corp experiences, and have never been required to be on TS. It's a PITA to set up on forums/comms/etc for any corp, but that's no different than any other MMO in the world.

I mainly play solo too, but seeing the logistics you get, boosts you get and protection from corps in EVE, its obvious why they are helpful. You posted a rage filled rant then immediately jumped down my throat when I made one comment. The bigger issue here might be your attitude, yeah?
Paranoid Loyd
#18 - 2016-01-06 22:08:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Pix Severus wrote:
There are only two things that corps can provide that are of any value whatsoever, those are friendship and a common goal to work towards.
These are certainly the most important, however I wouldn't say they are all that is of value. For example, although the vast majority love to Grr, the goons are the strongest because of the infrastructure and resources they provide.

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Sub Decay
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-01-06 22:14:22 UTC
I play solo partly due to RL issues and partly because I have no interest in feeling obligated to do stuff in the game. To be honest, some of the NPC corps are more active and friendly than many of the player corps. CAS is very busy, although a bit fluffy ("we haz cookies XD" etc). Some of the Caldari and Amarr NPC corps are pretty busy too, but the Minmatar ones are tumbleweed city. Join Republic University if you really want to feel alone!
Chief Serious
Doomheim
#20 - 2016-01-06 22:18:53 UTC
Isaac Armer wrote:
Chief Serious wrote:
Jumping to conclusions? Solo Miners Association was my Corp that made purely for the benefit of compressed ore and tossed it off to an alt that I don't have active any longer, and the other Corp for a day was one of 3 Corp experiences, perhaps you missed the, "I have 5 accounts" part of the thread.


Ok, so three corps out of thousands. Still.

I've had exactly two corp experiences, and have never been required to be on TS. It's a PITA to set up on forums/comms/etc for any corp, but that's no different than any other MMO in the world.

I mainly play solo too, but seeing the logistics you get, boosts you get and protection from corps in EVE, its obvious why they are helpful. You posted a rage filled rant then immediately jumped down my throat when I made one comment. The bigger issue here might be your attitude, yeah?



I don't have an attitude, and I'm not full of rage and ranting on the forums, but here you go making assumptions again. I simply stated my experience, and felt like letting the whole community know why I am not joining a corporation. And as far as setting up comms and sign up at forums and "Corp /Guild" websites, I shouldn't HAVE to, I don't want to, and I wont, and there is NO NEED whatsoever that any Corp/Guild would need me to sign up on a website that I will NEVER visit after the initial sign up. I am here to play a game, and to play it my way, not to be under the rule of an iron fist, not to have every second of every action watched as if I am a suicidal maniac that might murder everyone, steal everything, blow it up, then kill myself.

I have been a part of ALOT of MMO's, from WoW, to GW2, to ESO, and a million in between, and never have I been required to go to such lengths to join a guild/corp/alliance w/e you want to call it. So far in EVE, 3 different major Corps, 3 different yet very similar experiences.
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