EVE General Discussion

Ok, so maybe the gold rush should be coupled with a reworking of Sov as we know it.

Give some form of in-game reasoning like whatever it was that killed everything in 0.0 (cause when I said that I meant, nuke everything out there, outposts, POSes, Supers just floating in space and have everyone that was in a 0.0 system when it happened be in the system that was their "n00b" system the next time they logged on) also killed all of the gates and only left the NPC stations because of some dark nefarious reason that we don't entirely understand.

Remap 0.0 as well, systems that were once neighboring systems could now have 56 jumps in between them. Reclassifiy 0.0 as "shallow WH" space that functions in a similar fashion to the way that null does currently and have what is currently WH space be classified as "Deep WH" (Even go ahead and make new moon goos there that might one day become useful but aren't currently since they are totally alien elements)

If 0.0 were to be redone in this way, I think it could be a much fairer gold rush. if the WH's that led to systems died and switched the way that typical WH's do currently, it would prevent the accumulation of large swathes of space by controlling a few chokepoints and then expanding deeper once you've consolidated the chokes. Leave it on the players to actually construct their own gate pairs in a fashion similar to outpost creation, let the colonists determine how the map of null looks permanently (by permanently, I mean gate travel, not Sov)

I think that would be some fun **** that wouldn't get immediately retaken by the current power-blocs.

If 0.0 were to be redone in this way, I think it could be a much fairer gold rush. if the WH's that led to systems died and switched the way that typical WH's do currently, it would prevent the accumulation of large swathes of space by controlling a few chokepoints and then expanding deeper once you've consolidated the chokes. Leave it on the players to actually construct their own gate pairs in a fashion similar to outpost creation, let the colonists determine how the map of null looks permanently (by permanently, I mean gate travel, not Sov)

Ahaha, controlling regions by gate camping chokepoints, that's so cute. 2005 called, they want their forum sperg back.

Since it became possible to titan bridge an entire fleet right past chokepoints, that kind of chokepoint complaint has become the exclusive domain of high-sec pubbie sperglords who's experience of null-sec is limited to jumping into ECP-8R in their Raven and getting blapped by a bubble camp.

However if you can come up with a sovreignty system that doesn't involve wiping eve and starting over, and which doesn't involve shooting structures, I'll gladly listen to you.

Also another nullsec galaxy cluster accessable via wormhole with buildable jumpgates as you described might be interesting, but in addition to current nullsec rather than replacing it.

nah it's just that your ideas are shitstupid but don't let my opinion alone put you down
chin up little newbie and tell us how you'd like everything to be

You would be the second person to imply you didn't understand what I said. If that's genuine, you will need to read the thread I replied to and quotes. Read my response and put some thought in to it. If you have an historic understanding of EVE and null sec politics it will make sense. if you don't, the train came, went and has been decommissioned. It isn't something you need to worry about.

Yes... we're so successful because we manipulate the game through the CSM. That's why we've got a game full of overpowered supercapitals and we rely mostly on sub-caps. Supers still murder subcaps.

Shall I tell you why we're successful? It's because we don't take Eve at all seriously. We're terrible at this game and we know it.

Come to Hakonen and sit cloaked off the 7-7 station. Watch us engage a hostile gang 100km off the station, we'll wander over there in a hap-hazzard fasion one by one and the wrecks will pile up, before realising 'hey guys, maybe we should fleet up and, y'know, co-operate?'

We'll send a 150 man alpha fleet up against White Noise and Raiden knowing full well that Raiden have their supercaps logged on and ready to drop on us, but it's Friday night and we've been shooting structures all week so f*ck it , let's do it anyway, and laugh while they press the win button before they spam 'gf gf gf gf gf o7o7o7o7o7o7m8m8m8m8m8m8' in local.

We read corpmails and forum posts from other alliances courtesy of our spies, CEOs sperging out over sh*t-fits and embarassing lossmails. Meanwhile our KB has a weekly hall of shame at the top showcasing our most expensive losses (Farewell morale Kronos, you will be missed). Not a week goes by in Fountain that we don't lose a 3 Tengus or an Archon because some dumbass was ratting while there were neutrals in local.

So we aren't easily affected by ingame defeat, our community is more important than ingame events. You can kill our internet spaceships, take our sov, kill our supers if we had any, but you'll never take away our local-spam, fleetchat p0rn, or our Teamspeak concerts.

Do you mean: Reset and then have a gold rush to reclaim? or: Reset and no longer have sov as we know it?

Personally, I would prefer that CCP structure the game in such a way that new forces were encouraged to form in HighSec and assault the establishment powerbases of Zero. Unfortunately that can't happen under current mechanics. The major resource centers of Zero have been taken over progressively by two forces, one a metagaming "club" of thousands and one a metagaming group of RMT businesses. "Middling" sized groups of new players wanting to actually play Eve have no choice but to join the existing groups under "serf" terms or simply stay out of Zero. The fact that less than 12% of the Eve Population dwells in Zero is proof of this.

I have played Eve for six years, five of those years in zero, and observed this trend increasingly entrenched. CCP's failure to retain new subscribers is directly related to this problem. CCP is shooting itself in the foot in terms of revenues by catering to these metagame groups.

The fact that less than 12% of the Eve Population dwells in Zero is proof of this.

Welp, it has been fun, but your mental acrobatics are too much for me.