Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Posting this on an alt to preserve some anonymity, but we're being camped by someone who has access to cynoing in a large number of supers to what ever attacks him. Yeah, it's somewhat temporary, but I might as well desub for a month or two until the locusts move on.

But I'd rather play.

So, some ideas:

1) Deployable cyno jammer. Let a Dictor and/or Hictor deploy a bubble to inhibit all cynos, regular and covert, including inhibiting ones currently lit. Make it 50-60K radius. This inhibits the specter of encountering a T1 camper, but not really wanting to engage because 1 cyno could mean 20 supers.

2) Make it very difficult for supers to hit any subcap. It's just ridiculous that a ship the size of a small city is going to be able to hit something the size of a couple of sem-trucks. If supers required sub-cap support for defense, then 30 supers on a field would still be vulnerable.

3) Jump fatigue for supers and titans jumping through gates. Relative to the distance jumped, of course.

4) Limit the number/size of ships that can be sent to a given cyno by requiring fuel use at the cyno based upon the size of the ship(s) being jumped. No fuel, no jump.

(Anyone else have any suggestions?)

"I've encountered the slightest bit of adversity so let's talk about how the game should be changed so that won't happen to me anymore!"


And deployable cyno jammers are a thing that already exists. Buy one and deploy it.




Do you really think this would solve your problem? Anyone who can drop 30 supers on you could just as easily bridge an overwhelming subcap fleet.



How does this solve your problem? This reads more like a, "Grrr, supercaps" spite 'suggestion'.




HTFU? Leave the area? Find some people who would be happy to kill some supercaps and offer to be the bait?

Mobile deployable, like a bubble from a hictor.



But a 10 super and 20 subcap fleet is easier to handle than a 30 super right now.



Just makes them less mobile.

- kill them
- bribe them
- join them
- leave the area

OP hotdropped a ratting nyx with a load of dreads and now being hellcamped by the nyx's friends who want revenge on the said dreads and carriers docked in the system where they killed the ratting nyx

no link, i just made that logical scenario up

Solution 1: Miners, stop mining. Sounds reasonable.

//- set up traps: this requires a bit of effort. Get a feel for what kinds of ships the hotdroppers are bringing... set up a composition that can take it... bait them out. The trick is to not be seen by the hotdroppers doing this (they have many spies).



- get help: I am not talking about hiring anyone. Just find out who the hotdropper's worst enemies are and tip them off. Offer to be "bait." Once the hotdroppers get whiff of this or, if you are lucky, fall prey to their own medicine... they will quickly change up tactics//

And then you get counter dropped by 30 supers. What jow?

And if they are the biggest capital alliance in the game? Then what?
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With your ideas though...

1a. No. This adversely affects too many other things in the game. Namely, Blop-dropping... which is an art in its own right.//

It just increases the risk of lighting a cyno. What's the matter? Chicken?

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2a. Already the case. But if they know they have nothing to fear from you (or bring in a lot of support) they can min/max to make it possible.//

But it would make it harder.

//3a. No. That's WAY too harsh of a penalty. We WANT more supers to be using gates.//

Oh, so, a 30 man Nyx gang jumps a gate into your system. Whachu gonna do?

//4a. This one I can get behind. But it will still be to the overwhelming advantage of larger groups//

But you won't be dropping 30 supers via a interceptor.

if the Imperium are camping you in, call PL, Snuff, LowSechnaya Sholupen, NC., or pretty much anyone else with a reputation for killing supers.

If it's one of those groups I listed, call one of the others.

if it's the biggest super fleet in the game, call the second and third biggest.

If it's thirty nyxes, any of the groups listed would need new trousers if you gave them a chance to slaughter that many supers.


Just how many people are these thirty supers camping in anyway, and what's stopping you from just going somewhere else? If it's lowsec, they can't bubble you. If it's null, cynojam the system. In either case, use deployable cynojammers to cover your evac.

There are tools, methods and tactics you can already use to avoid a supercapital hotdrop. Just because you don't want to use them doesn't mean CCP need to change the game to suit your personal whims.

Right, so this isn't actually an F&I thread and is actually a Mad 'cuz Bad whine thread, then, yes?

They have a use. They just don't do what you want, which is apparently, "Completely, and with trivial ease, prevent any and all hotdrops now and forever merely at the press of a button."

They would be useful if deployed from a interdictor of heavy interdictor like they deploy bubbles.