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is there any plan to nerf the svipul ship ?
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Josef Djugashvilis
#61 - 2016-01-03 18:10:26 UTC
There will always be a 'top' ship, which CCP will then nerf until the only real difference ship-wise will be the paint work.

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Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#62 - 2016-01-04 06:08:40 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
There will always be a 'top' ship, which CCP will then nerf until the only real difference ship-wise will be the paint work.


I would prefer the op ship to be a battleship because they're more expensive to make, easier to catch and can be blapped by dreads in extreme cases. Implying that its ok for a ship with a real price of 40mil should be the most powerful ship pound for pound in the game is craycray.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2016-01-04 08:33:03 UTC
Saredan wrote:
hello this ship is the best at the moment on zkilloard

https://zkillboard.com/ship/34562/

so is there any nerf planed that will happen to this ship
thanks .


Your perception is biased. Most kills are in mid size gangs with plenty of other ships.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#64 - 2016-01-04 17:23:17 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
There will always be a 'top' ship, which CCP will then nerf until the only real difference ship-wise will be the paint work.


I would prefer the op ship to be a battleship because they're more expensive to make, easier to catch and can be blapped by dreads in extreme cases. Implying that its ok for a ship with a real price of 40mil should be the most powerful ship pound for pound in the game is craycray.


I am inclined to agree with you.

Of course, should any Battleship ever appear at or near the top of a kill list in terms of kills per ship usage, CCP will nerf it.

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Budrick3
Moira.
#65 - 2016-01-05 01:39:03 UTC
The best way to balance T3 Desi is to have the pilot loose SP every time they loose one just like the T3 Cruiser. These die at a much faster frequency, and so people would think twice before flying them all the time like they are now.

Its disgusting how CCP have encouraged frig and desi play to the extent that they do.

CCP Employee "Guise, I have a great idea! Lets make T3 and command Desi's and then, we will give them frigate logi, and keep boosts off grid!"

Im going to put myself on a pedestal and state that the struggle is real for those that like to fly cruiser and up like myself. Go out in Low and Null, and everyone flies these things because they are extremely capable, zero commit, and extreme mobility.

Battleships, Battle cruiser are slow, cant track for beans, and are only good for one thing these days, and that is shooting a pos. Thanks CCP.

CCP is increasing the abilities of small ships, and capitals with the next expansion offering dreads that can hit smaller targets easier, but nothing for BS or larger gang. I even went to Eve Vegas and gained the courage to ask during the main capital presentation what balances are going to be considered for BS, and the CCP rep answering just looked at me dumb founded like I was the idiot because I still flew BS.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2016-01-05 04:46:43 UTC
Saredan wrote:
why only one ship got over 50 % more kills that any other ship ?
CCP please balance :) thanks

look at "top ships" svipul is at 13,430

https://zkillboard.com/



The most stupid thing about EVE and the most annoying thing about balance passes is the attitude that the amount a ship is used is in direct proportion somehow to the amount its overpowered.

EVE is a spreadsheet game. If a ship i only 2% better than the other choices 90% of players will fly it.

The reverse idiocy is also done in EVE, for example the Drake is seriously Under Powered but never gets a balance pass because it is "still popular" (though only among new players reading old forum posts from when it actually was good)

NOTE: The Svipul probably needs a balance pass but saying "it is popular" is not a valid argument.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#67 - 2016-01-05 05:04:16 UTC
Drake isn't underpowered in any sort or way.
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#68 - 2016-01-05 08:25:08 UTC
Nope, working as intended...

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Valacus
Streets of Fire
#69 - 2016-01-05 16:06:54 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Saredan wrote:
why only one ship got over 50 % more kills that any other ship ?
CCP please balance :) thanks

look at "top ships" svipul is at 13,430

https://zkillboard.com/



The most stupid thing about EVE and the most annoying thing about balance passes is the attitude that the amount a ship is used is in direct proportion somehow to the amount its overpowered.

EVE is a spreadsheet game. If a ship i only 2% better than the other choices 90% of players will fly it.

The reverse idiocy is also done in EVE, for example the Drake is seriously Under Powered but never gets a balance pass because it is "still popular" (though only among new players reading old forum posts from when it actually was good)

NOTE: The Svipul probably needs a balance pass but saying "it is popular" is not a valid argument.


Only the Svipul is way more than 2% above its competition, even among other T3Ds.

And Drake is only "still popular" as a mission runners. I haven't seen one in PvP in well over a year.