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Why the Noctis over a destroyer for salvage?
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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#21 - 2016-01-03 08:10:50 UTC
Thomas Lot wrote:
The Noctis has a nice bonus for range, but it's ability to target at range is severely limited. The targeting range of the Noctis is far less than the range of the tractor beams. It also seems that the Noctis takes an inordinate amount of time to target lock a wreck.

I haven't flown a Noctis in a very long time - but based on my recollections I suspect you're fitting Warp Core Stabs...
Jaantrag
#22 - 2016-01-03 16:29:09 UTC
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[Noctis, No#3]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Cap Recharger II

Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II

Medium Salvage Tackle II
Medium Salvage Tackle II
Medium Salvage Tackle II

Salvage Drone I x5


+ salvage implant and targeting range one .. 85 access difficulty bonus and targeting 107km .. cos why not ? ..


Quote:
[Dragoon, Pooter]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Cap Recharger II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive

Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II

Small Salvage Tackle II
Small Salvage Tackle II
Small Salvage Tackle II

Salvage Drone I x5
Salvage Drone I x10


same toon so same AD at 85. .. targeting enuf

boht ships high slots get rearranged depending on the loots


now to answer the topic question ..
prefer noctis cos is faster at the job and can carry more .. so when i have bunch of areas in one system ore next tood ro clean up take noctis

if i get an odd cleanup job 5-6-10 jumps off my noctis id go with dessy as it is faster getting there ..


all really depend on What u do and where .. and ur own taste .. as OP said hes in null .. (might wanna check thows lowsec mods of yours if u get less targeting range as pointed out) depends what kind of null it is for you .. "safe" area where u are digged in .. good intel and all that .. id go with noctis on quiet times .. when there is acticity and id need to clean up an area go with the dessy .. or get some escalation or whatnots to clean up couple jumps away dessy will get u there faster


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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#23 - 2016-01-03 22:09:13 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:
Thomas Lot wrote:
The Noctis has a nice bonus for range, but it's ability to target at range is severely limited. The targeting range of the Noctis is far less than the range of the tractor beams. It also seems that the Noctis takes an inordinate amount of time to target lock a wreck.

I haven't flown a Noctis in a very long time - but based on my recollections I suspect you're fitting Warp Core Stabs...

While true I do wonder what makes you think he had warp core stabs fit?
Llehctim Ttirrem
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-01-03 22:28:57 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Jacob Holland wrote:
Thomas Lot wrote:
The Noctis has a nice bonus for range, but it's ability to target at range is severely limited. The targeting range of the Noctis is far less than the range of the tractor beams. It also seems that the Noctis takes an inordinate amount of time to target lock a wreck.

I haven't flown a Noctis in a very long time - but based on my recollections I suspect you're fitting Warp Core Stabs...

While true I do wonder what makes you think he had warp core stabs fit?


due to the fact that stabs drop your targeting range and scan res by 40% with the T2 Stab.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-01-04 09:44:27 UTC
Noctis.

Why? because when your salvage is worth hundreds of millions of isk and it gets quite chunky nothing is better.
With 6 T2 salvagers the trick is keeping up with them lol, and the tractors are great for those wrecks outside the range of the MTU.

No Worries
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#26 - 2016-01-04 13:08:49 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Noctis.

Why? because when your salvage is worth hundreds of millions of isk and it gets quite chunky nothing is better.
With 6 T2 salvagers the trick is keeping up with them lol, and the tractors are great for those wrecks outside the range of the MTU.

An MTU's range is 125km for the lowest meta, and a Noctis' highest possible tractor beam range is 96km.

What do you mean?

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2016-01-04 13:31:01 UTC
Moonlit Raid wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Noctis.

Why? because when your salvage is worth hundreds of millions of isk and it gets quite chunky nothing is better.
With 6 T2 salvagers the trick is keeping up with them lol, and the tractors are great for those wrecks outside the range of the MTU.

An MTU's range is 125km for the lowest meta, and a Noctis' highest possible tractor beam range is 96km.

What do you mean?


Ah guess i didnt word that very well :p

The MTU tractors 1 wreck at a time meaning there is often a number of wrecks outside the "blob" around the MTU which are easilly in reach of the salvagers... the 2 tractors on the noctis finishes that job in enough time to not pause salvaging.

No Worries
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#28 - 2016-01-05 07:33:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrew Indy
I think that using a Noctis for the tractors is a waste, MTUs have a better range , loot cans and are AFK. Unless you really have an issue with people shooting them in HS its a waste. In any other space i would prefer to have a tractor sitting in space tractoring stuff than a ship. Once the wrecks are in a ball salvaging and looting 1 can is easy and fast.

Wether you use a Noctis or any other ship for the salvaging is really up to cost ect.
Llehctim Ttirrem
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2016-01-05 07:48:16 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Moonlit Raid wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Noctis.

Why? because when your salvage is worth hundreds of millions of isk and it gets quite chunky nothing is better.
With 6 T2 salvagers the trick is keeping up with them lol, and the tractors are great for those wrecks outside the range of the MTU.

An MTU's range is 125km for the lowest meta, and a Noctis' highest possible tractor beam range is 96km.

What do you mean?


Ah guess i didnt word that very well :p

The MTU tractors 1 wreck at a time meaning there is often a number of wrecks outside the "blob" around the MTU which are easilly in reach of the salvagers... the 2 tractors on the noctis finishes that job in enough time to not pause salvaging.


well that's why you drop the MTU when you warp in with your combat ship, not the Noctis. that way it's all right there and ready to be salvaged all at once when you do warp in to salvage. Noctis with 8 salvagers clears everything really quick when it's right there
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2016-01-05 08:21:58 UTC
Llehctim Ttirrem wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Moonlit Raid wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Noctis.

Why? because when your salvage is worth hundreds of millions of isk and it gets quite chunky nothing is better.
With 6 T2 salvagers the trick is keeping up with them lol, and the tractors are great for those wrecks outside the range of the MTU.

An MTU's range is 125km for the lowest meta, and a Noctis' highest possible tractor beam range is 96km.

What do you mean?


Ah guess i didnt word that very well :p

The MTU tractors 1 wreck at a time meaning there is often a number of wrecks outside the "blob" around the MTU which are easilly in reach of the salvagers... the 2 tractors on the noctis finishes that job in enough time to not pause salvaging.


well that's why you drop the MTU when you warp in with your combat ship, not the Noctis. that way it's all right there and ready to be salvaged all at once when you do warp in to salvage. Noctis with 8 salvagers clears everything really quick when it's right there


Im talking for those wonderful instances where your killing little red crosses faster than your MTU can scoop them lol.
You generally dont want to be hanging around in a WH site any longer than you have to...especially when you can have a bill's worth of salvage in your woefully squishy noctis.

No Worries
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