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[Arek'Jaalan] Project Heliograph

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Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2016-01-02 12:32:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Trii Seo
Introduction:

Approved by the Arek'Jaalan research collective, the Heliograph project will begin with the start of the stellar year YC118. It will focus on developing a long-range transmitter capable of initiating communication with the Vigilant Tyrannos.

Goals:

To construct a transmitter and a listening post structure and open a communications channel with the Vigilant Tyrannos, who - to this date - remain an unknown factor in the cluster politics.

Methodology:

Due to its complexity, the Heliograph will require three phases. In the first, research material will be compiled and analyzed to ensure maximum probable compliance of the transmitter with both protocols and hardware utilized by the Vigilant Tyrannos. A full list of required materials: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cd-KByDcxleHeRL8zdH9MhW8kR8FICJvBwzx4bCrqVQ/edit#gid=0 is located under this hyperlink.

Once this data is collected and analyzed, construction of the Heliograph itself will begin. Since it may involve rare materials, depending on both scarcity and quantity required, another harvesting operation may be required.

The third phase of the project will commence once the Heliograph has been built. It will be transported from its berth in the Nein system, Ergruk constellation and moved to a new location. A message will be recorded in multiple languages, both new and old - requesting diplomatic contact from those who receive it. Following this, the transmitter will be powered up and a watch around it estabilished. Since New Eden cannot be considered a safe place, an escort detachment may be required for this phase.

Since the project is still in its first phase, the method of listening for the return transmission has not been determined yet.

Location:

The project base is currently located in the Nein system, in the Impro Factory. This facility will be used as a berth for the Heliograph itself.

Currently, all material processing is handled by Viriel and Thomas en Gravonere.



This thread will be updated with reports of each phase. Since Arek'Jaalan is a public organization, anyone is free to come to our aid in this endaevour - and any sort of help would be much appreciated.

We are fully aware that anything related to the Vigilant Tyrannos brings to mind violence. Arek'Jaalan will remain neutral in the Drifter-Amarr conflict, and the Heliograph will be used only as a communication device.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Caldari State
#2 - 2016-01-02 12:57:00 UTC
The factor of Vigilant Tyrannos in the cluster politics have been already demonstrated by themselves.
For those, who have missed the recent events that have unfolded, they have attacked the Amarr Empire and assassinated the head of the Empire. Their behavior was shown to be hostile, they have resorted to the violence and direct attack instead of attempts to communicate or pursuit their goal by different means, they are currently enemies of the Amarr Empire, Caldari State and all the sentient and civilized life in our cluster.

Any attempts at communication with them with current status quo should be considered as collaboration.

All enemies of Caldari State and Amarr Empire SHALL DIE.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2016-01-02 13:28:27 UTC
Oh yes, maybe, perhaps - but, Arek'Jaalan is neither Amarr nor Caldari. We are not at war with the Vigilant Tyrannos (and last I recall, neither was the State. Unless something changed). You can take your fanatism elsewhere, Kimmie, it will not do you any good here.

In fact, some of us believe that the weaponization of Sleeper technology - which this organization has opposed in the past - led to the current conflict. The reasons behind it are nothing but speculation though, hence the plans of communication.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Mercenary Coalition
#4 - 2016-01-02 14:15:50 UTC
Is it just me or does this have a little tinge of "too little too late" at this point? Don't get me wrong, I commend an attempt at communication rather than mindless aggression, but it's rather remarkable that it has taken this long before it was an option.

Ah well, either way it's rather amusing to watch people reap what they sow.

I wish you luck on this project. Perhaps you'll even succeed, and wouldn't that prove... interesting?
#5 - 2016-01-02 14:29:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Veskin Sentinel
I support this project.

Some time ago there was an autopsy of a Vigillant Tyrannos that lead to some good and interesting results. It had been made clear that whatever they are, they are either unwilling, or, more likely, unable to communicate with us. The results showed that they are probably connected so something, or someone, that controls them. If this is the case, the Heliograph will at least be able to determine who or what is the controling entity of the Vigillant Tyrannos, maybe its location, or its overall nature.

This will bring invaluable intel that we can later process and it will let us be one step ahead in this conflict.

I am just a little concerned of the safety of this endeavour, in the case of possible communication security breach on our end, but since the Heliograph itself is a device separate from our network, things can be pretty safe.

Gathering intel and data is also a part of any ongoing conflict and if we have a clue on what is behind the Drifters, it will let us be prepared for whatever comes next. Moreover - we will be able to respond quicker to any behavioral change of the Drifters, which will be invaluable in the attempt to settle this conflict.

So far the destruction of Drifters and Circadian Seekers around the cluster, has only lead to more conflicts, adding the fact that we still don't know what they want.

An alternative solution like the Heliograph project is most welcome.

I will do whatever I can to gather the required materials.

www.veskin7.blogspot.com - my EVE related blog.

Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2016-01-02 14:33:12 UTC
Eh, you know what they say - better late than never. Especially now that things have quieted down, and a few punches have been thrown from both sides.

I don't rate our chances of success as certain, but sod the odds - we're going to do it anyway.

We have received several batches of material that are currently being transported to our site and are very grateful. Multiple safety measures have been enacted to ensure the security of the Heliograph, and we will do our best to prevent it from being used as a weapon - by either side.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

#7 - 2016-01-02 14:54:21 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Is it just me or does this have a little tinge of "too little too late" at this point? Don't get me wrong, I commend an attempt at communication rather than mindless aggression, but it's rather remarkable that it has taken this long before it was an option.

Ah well, either way it's rather amusing to watch people reap what they sow.

I wish you luck on this project. Perhaps you'll even succeed, and wouldn't that prove... interesting?


We can still find some use for the transmitter. I imagine that during the course of the creation of the transmitter, A'J might also discover how a receiver and the algorithms needed to intercept, decrypt and decode all Drifter transmission may be devised. The project won't be a complete waste of time.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Haighare Pirates
#8 - 2016-01-02 14:59:50 UTC
Viriel you say? That half-witted aberration that fancies himself a Jovian? You Arek'Jaalan charlatans have always had a lack of standards when selecting your cohorts. Some more incompetent than others, yet you all produce bewildering degrees of sucess in your research.

Make no mistakes, Ser Seo. We are at war, and we might as well have fired the first shot. Grave robbing is a serious offense, specially when it is used to build black box technology that we can barely replicate. Do not waste your resources trying to reason with minds so alien they barely register as human.

Neutrality? That's laughable. Even now you raid their nests for pieces of a puzzle so imcomplete you need to hammer what few pieces you have for them to fit together.
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-01-02 15:09:42 UTC
Trii Seo wrote:
Oh yes, maybe, perhaps - but, Arek'Jaalan is neither Amarr nor Caldari. We are not at war with the Vigilant Tyrannos (and last I recall, neither was the State. Unless something changed). You can take your fanatism elsewhere, Kimmie, it will not do you any good here.

In fact, some of us believe that the weaponization of Sleeper technology - which this organization has opposed in the past - led to the current conflict. The reasons behind it are nothing but speculation though, hence the plans of communication.

You know, what is fanaticism? It is blind conviction disregarding facts.
Unlike you, minmatar, I make assumptions based on facts that happened and you simply ignore them for your gain, or to disrupt other beings, whom you hate (e.g. the Amarr Empire, who was a victim of Tyrannos attacks).
In your fanaticism you have forgotten that neither the State nor Empire have attacked drifters before. Neither the State or the Empire were at war with Drifters, when they have assassinated her Majesty.

They have chosen their course and you still fail to see it.

Maybe you will open your eyes finally and remove that veil of blind hatred that prevents you from reasoning clearly to realize what is really going on around you?

And also it is not "Kimmie", it is "Strike Commander Diana Kim". Learn to read insignia, it isn't really THAT hard, even five year old Caldari kids do it better than you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Mercenary Coalition
#10 - 2016-01-02 15:19:56 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Is it just me or does this have a little tinge of "too little too late" at this point? Don't get me wrong, I commend an attempt at communication rather than mindless aggression, but it's rather remarkable that it has taken this long before it was an option.

Ah well, either way it's rather amusing to watch people reap what they sow.

I wish you luck on this project. Perhaps you'll even succeed, and wouldn't that prove... interesting?


We can still find some use for the transmitter. I imagine that during the course of the creation of the transmitter, A'J might also discover how a receiver and the algorithms needed to intercept, decrypt and decode all Drifter transmission may be devised. The project won't be a complete waste of time.



Very much agree. I commend this attempt and project, even if Arek'jalaan started out as a cancer in the Republic. I still regret having failed to recognize that ahead of time. This might actually prove useful.

As long as it does not attract further... attention.
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-01-02 15:22:45 UTC
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Viriel you say? That half-witted aberration that fancies himself a Jovian? You Arek'Jaalan charlatans have always had a lack of standards when selecting your cohorts. Some more incompetent than others, yet you all produce bewildering degrees of success in your research.
The whole Arek'Jaalan project was started by a team of dissidents (as the name part Jaalan suggests) and thieves, who have hijacked the Charon-class corporate freighter to pursue their personal goals and perform dubious scientific (or pseudo-scientific) experiments.

They hid themselves deep in minmatar space, since minmatars are well known for their affinity to criminality. Republic government did no action against the thieves and even one of minmatar corporations have accepted them as their own

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2016-01-02 15:28:18 UTC
Ah, Kimmie - you do well pointing out mistakes in my thinking. You see, I do have a tendency to veil my instructions too thinly for others to understand.

Let me rephrase my previous answer - go play a soldier somewhere else, dear. This is not your war. This is not a war at all. We do not represent the State, or the Empire.

And, well - while I put my trust in the Republic and its ability to hold the field - as tarnished as this reputation may be in this day and age - certain precautions have been taken to ensure the security of this project. Hopefully, we will be able to mitigate the attention received.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2016-01-02 15:31:46 UTC
I say toss Borkstar to the Drifters. He's probably responsible for the whole malarkey anyway.
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2016-01-02 15:37:25 UTC
Should one not trust Viriel, our additional contact - Thomas - is now in position and available.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Caldari State
#15 - 2016-01-02 15:39:16 UTC
Trii Seo wrote:
Ah, Kimmie - you do well pointing out mistakes in my thinking. You see, I do have a tendency to veil my instructions too thinly for others to understand.

Let me rephrase my previous answer - go play a soldier somewhere else, dear. This is not your war. This is not a war at all. We do not represent the State, or the Empire.

And, well - while I put my trust in the Republic and its ability to hold the field - as tarnished as this reputation may be in this day and age - certain precautions have been taken to ensure the security of this project. Hopefully, we will be able to mitigate the attention received.

Well, then you don't represent neither sentient, nor cultural species in our cluster.

As for is it my war or not, it is not for you to decide, minmatar. All enemies of the Empire are my enemies as well.

Moreover, your ignorance and inability to learn is appalling. I have stated already how to read insignia properly ("Strike Commander Diana Kim"), and you yet display a failure even at such simplistic comprehension check. No, minmatar, it is not "Kimmie" again. Maybe you will succeed in the third time? But now I really doubt.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Caldari State
#16 - 2016-01-02 15:42:54 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
I say toss Borkstar to the Drifters. He's probably responsible for the whole malarkey anyway.

Colonel, if someone should be blamed in the escalation of Drifter conflict, it should be these pseudo-scientists, who snatched and studied their body. While these incompetent fools tried to imagine themselves as smart guys, they have failed horrifically and with their amoral actions have caused a direct drifter retaliation, which, if I am not mistaken, was the first offensive action taken by drifters themselves.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2016-01-02 15:57:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Ria Nieyli
Trii Seo wrote:
Should one not trust Viriel, our additional contact - Thomas - is now in position and available.


Trust him? The guy is a menace to society. He's mentally ill, and you're enabling him.
Haighare Pirates
#18 - 2016-01-02 16:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Yarosara Ruil
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Trust him? The guy is a menace to society.


Preach it Colonel. Truer words never spoken.
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2016-01-02 16:02:54 UTC
Arek'Jaalan has seen various oddballs and outcasts of society, he's done a good job so far helping out. There's no habit of throwing help out the window here.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2016-01-02 16:13:27 UTC
Really? Let me help you then.
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