EVE General Discussion

Yeah I remember those days.

It was kind of scary during burn Jita when you were stuck at the gate mashing the button to enter over and over again.

I miss the whine threads in GD every couple of weeks when someone would lose a Freighter in Perimeter stuck on the Jita gate and they would complain about not receiving a warning before reaching the gate.

How is it any different today? Besides the names of the bots being less creative and there being half as many as before in local?

If you listen to all the forum posts since 2003, you would know that Eve has been dying since it was created.


It has, and will continue to fluctuate during the year, and spike when something hits mainstream media that concerns Eve Online, like B-R. Pay no mind to the "Repent now, the end is near" talk..

Eve, the original Netflix show.
Make it happen

Micro-transactions door were opened years ago and have been embraced with open arms. You don't know our playerbase anymore.

I am as guilty as any, I have hundreds of ship skins. I paid for them in-game but it still supported someone paying to get ahead with real money.

We slowly let CCP introduce things toxic to this game, Plex, Skins, Multi-Train. Now we are numb to SP swapping, SP buying, ship and module purchasing, all things coming in the future I promise.

So whether we keep the sub model or go f2p, micro-transactions are going to make this game look like Farmville over the next couple years. And we did it to ourselves.

It is a process. And the introduction of ideas by CCP slowly, then eventually is common history.

Some would argue that Plex does the exact opposite of stemming the tide of isk selling because it gives people avenues to easily make money off this game through illegal processes. We can't get into depth without ISD jumping in.

And if you cant see how someone buying skin, that is then given isk for it isn't an advantage then I can't help you very much understand this game. Is it pay to win? nope. But it does give people a leg up and makes people appreciate the grind for assets less. (creating more instant gratification players).

Everything I have listed was a gateway to the eventuality that CCP will have a website where you can paypal your way into a nice shiny Rattlesnake, or Nyx, or whatever with a click of a button.

Nonsense, you're just trying to use faulty logic again. We've always been FINE with Micro transactions as long as it's cosmetics and done in a reasonable manner. In fact we've been trying to encourage CCP to do more of it and to do it in a smarter and better focussed way. We've NEVER stated we'd be ok with P2W or P2A in fact we rallied against it numerous times.

You're just trying to piggyback onto the "see, we're ok with MT" to try and push the "I want P2A".

I can't elaborate on your failure to understand simple concepts.

But I can elaborate that in no way, shape or form is the community "FINE" with microtransactions. It was a slowly introduced feature that CCP continues to expand on, we have fought them every step of the way but they were smart enough to slowly put them in so the rage was minimal.

You do not get to be the voice of the people, just because you think you are more important than everyone else.