Market Discussions

Is it ok by the EVE EULA/TOS to charge ISK for out of game services, like price commodity information or convenience tools on a private web site or other strategic information on a private web site?

For example, would it be permissible by CCP for eve-central.com to charge ISK for the use of their "Trade Finder" tool?

[any official response would be appreciated]

It was a meant to empower 3rd party services of EVE Online websites to help control their costs with higher end EVE Online related info services.

Certain entities accept donation on Twitch and I inquired to find that they had an association with CCP.
CCP also does stream there.

As for EVE-Central, they already do charge for certain log in services such as perhaps the "Trade Finder" tool.
(I didn't verify yet. Good point, that could be updated in a valid Market related post.
I also have a website on a webhost with domain names, but I don't plan on using it for EVE Online yet.)

Don't get me wrong, there is more than one way to do this illegally.
Just that if you get a confirmed agreement with CCP before and can prove that it is maintained as agreed to (it's too easy to change processes midway), then, it may be a valid activity.


For instance, let's say I offer hypothetical market info for an agreed price in ISK.
Even if no-one ever pays me for it, which helps reduce the bandwidth of data pull, I could still do it.
Of course, I could do it for free with a proper password and username security routine or other security subprogram applied in the proper phase of the program design and flow.
I could also charge for the said security, in ISK, or as appropriate.

Here lies the problem condition, to charge or get money against CCP intellectual property rights, to which they own 100% of, not 99%.
In other words, to deny them of their rightfully earned rights, which they have the right to protect.
Even to try to do that is illegal, as in an illegal attempt to.
It is also illegal to try to circumvent security measures (IT security measures implemented electronically).

Can it be viewed as electronic warfare?
I wouldn't bet what you don't have on it.


Edit:
To try to gain from programs to marginalize others is as legal as it sounds.
It is also illegal to lie in court that it is legal, even when it does happen, and it does happen, and you know when.

it could be a bit different (a bit of reformatting) but

you are not allowed to make money against ccp intellectual property rights
while using their intellectual property
to generate money
and compete against them without letting them have the fair share of their work

secondo
you should consult with ccp before doing anything risky with their rights because
if technical problems were to occur on top of financial or legal problems
it may cost more to repair
and they could hold the party doing that or trying to do that liable
and they develop systems and methods to protect their interest against this
and find ways and prepare to track those activities

furthermore
if you charge $5 for logging in to your site to charge for a service
such as the somethingawful.com forum
or eve-marketdata or who knows which site, twitch included
you may need better logistic to prove the procedures than simple arguments about rights since
those charges could have to be justified to cover costs and not go over those costs

and i am sure there are plenty of reasons or grounds not covered in the EULA
there are some listed in the 3rdparty license which allows a better a understanding of the reasons
however, they can change it without notice