Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Last night a new module occurred to me while out in my small gang fleet of frigates and cruisers that may just have the potential to bring battleship class ships back onto the battlefield.

I wont get into the nitty gritty details so i'll just put out the concept and hope that it gets enough attention for the right people to actually consider it.

The module is a fleet damage mitigation module. This is how it works: Its a short range AE >10km that provides all fleet members in its radius a 30% (?) reduction in damage that is redirected to the battleship using the module.

And that is pretty much the module ladies and gentlemen. I think this module could bring a unique role to battleships including the marauder class as well, which would bring a lot more use of BS back to the field including for small gang skirmishes. The application of multiple modules from multiple battleships could potential change the dynamic of fleet fights, if multiple modules can stack. This would make it so battleships would have to be taken out first in many fleet engagements with multiple battleships using this module as the damage mitigation would be theoretically 100% on all other ships in its immediate vicinity. (But this honestly seems OP, unless theres some kind of stacking penalty that balances it)

I believe a module like this would be really healthy for pvp engagements giving battleships a unique role while also giving the new command destroyers a tactical niche as well with their mjd. This module has the effect of increasing the duration of fleet fights and making fleet support ships like ewar ever more important to have and manage..

What do you guys think, if this sounds like something that you'd want to see in game that would enhance gameplay give it a +1. Any feedback is welcome.

I suppose if need be (coding issues) this could be an effective means of linking ships to the battleship...

As for the fuel... I think running it off the capacitor is sufficient enough, but i also think this module should have some hefty cap use requirements as well, which would make energy warfare an effective counter against this tech.

BS aren't in that much need of a gimicky module.
Some targeting range so they don't need sensor boosters simply to use a standard unboosted long range weapon, a significant base EHP increase and a little bit of sustainable tank increase for the standard BS (The silly fits are all ASB based or triple rep based which are not sustainable). And that will actually put them in a much more appropriate place.

Note this 'module' you are asking for basically already exists in the form of armour boosts as a note, increasing fleet resists has this effect already. I'm not against more fleet support modules either, but if an entire class has issues a gimmick is not the way to fix them.

Probably to give people more of a reason to use BC's. They don't see much action that often compared to regular cruisers.

I'll pose the goon question - since they are the n+1 kings at the moment.

If I'm in a fleet of 201 rokhs and we all have these +30% damage to me/-30% to everyone else modules and we all turn them on and then 5 nitwits in bombers make a run at us.... what happens?

Do all the ships get +30% damage (times 5 for that many bombs) (times 200 for that many close ships)because of the module?
Do all the ships get -30% damage (times 200 for that many close ships) because of the other 200 modules?
Did we all just get alpha'd because the damage to me got calculated first?
Did we all just get zero damage because because the damage reduction go calculated first?

Do you do all the calculations and then give a final damage number?
Do all these calculations make hamster brains splatter all over the inside of the server?
(assuming the server doesn't just create a black hole and disappear) Did 5 bombers just max out TIDI while all these modules interact with each other?

201 Rokhs orbitting a gate at 8km (7.82km if you're an max/min math nerd - but then again, getting 201 dudes to orbit at 7.82km would be a bit much to ask). The enemies jump in. As the baddies start to load grid, 201 damage swaperdoodle modules get turned on in 3-2-1 now now now. Did 201 rokhs just turn the entire incoming enemy fleet into fish in a barrel as the server does the 10km AOE math for 201 gate orbiting rokhs (they are all constantly in and out of each others 10km AOE) so that the incoming fleet is dead before they load grid?

I don't think 'the blob' needs any defensive AOE tools to inflict real world server lag on eve fleets. Conceptually it's kind of cool. AOE in general scales abuse quite well, so not ideal. AND as in the multitude of other BS are teh suxors thread - BS are in a pretty good spot as is right now. You just have to fly them correctly (they ain't solo pwnmobiles - for the most part). Consult my corps KB, we've been using them pretty regularly in wh/null/LS with a good deal of success and a great deal of fun.

All your questions really pan off the basis of these modules being allowed to stack which is definately something that would have to seriously be considered. And what if 10km isnt the range, what if its 5km, keeping a fleet in a 5km formation would be quite difficult in any fleet fight. The module doesnt give +30%dmg... the module only removes -30% of the dmg being applied on to a target and redirects it onto the host battleship in its vicinity running this module.

For those saying battleships are in a good state... I would argue that they may be solid ships on the field once they are in the battle, but its getting them there thats really the problem, they are super sluggish, and lack any real benefit to a fleet once they arrive. They are in the end just a dps ship with a little higher ehp. with the exception of the geddon and the scorpion which has defined roles. Anyway, I just wanted to put this idea out there.. Thanks for the feedback.

I had an idea about a module that would decrease the amount of target locks a battleship has on him at any given time. For now let's call it target spectrum breaker I.

If the battleship pilot is in too deep she would use one of those while being alinged to somewhere and she could get out or mjd in a better position.

What do you think?

Hmm I honestly don't know, I just thought it was funny.

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