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Old posses clutter up space

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Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#21 - 2015-12-21 09:00:25 UTC
The Ginger Sith wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Buy Oracle then wardec.

Nicely put.
I will have to look at the Oracle thingy, I was thinking and paper experimenting with various Polarized BS fits, perhaps I have been chasing the wrong thing.


[Abaddon, Abaddon fit]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Large Capacitor Battery II

Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


Ogre II x3

Assuming no force field so you can get at range 0, using faction ammo like this will take you to around 20 million damage done (assuming all V) before you need to re-cycle the guns. Depending on the total HP of your target, it might be worthwhile time wise.


better off using standard tech 1 crystals since they never break ever and if fit is cap stable u can let it afk all day i used to do that with a dedicated low sp alt in a geddon (later oracle) when the alliance said come shoot structures or be kicked from alliance and set red CTA active so i sent that useless alt to afk it lol


Yeah, its just cheaper to use a cap stable oracle with T1 multicrystals on a dead stick if you are planning on going afk. Just in case they actually plan on defending the dead stick, I mean you are AFK anyways, so does it really matter if it takes another episode of your favorite TV show to pop?

Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.

Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#22 - 2015-12-21 15:33:50 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Buy Oracle then wardec.

Nicely put.
I will have to look at the Oracle thingy, I was thinking and paper experimenting with various Polarized BS fits, perhaps I have been chasing the wrong thing.


[Abaddon, Abaddon fit]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Large Capacitor Battery II

Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


Ogre II x3

Assuming no force field so you can get at range 0, using faction ammo like this will take you to around 20 million damage done (assuming all V) before you need to re-cycle the guns. Depending on the total HP of your target, it might be worthwhile time wise.

Interesting, I shall look into it.
However since it is all theory crafting at this point it is not all that important.
In reality when they eliminated the standings requirement to anchor a POS and with empty moons all over high sec destroying a POS does not have the same affect it once did.
The Ginger Sith
Attero Industries
#23 - 2015-12-22 03:32:03 UTC  |  Edited by: The Ginger Sith
Donnachadh wrote:

Interesting, I shall look into it.
However since it is all theory crafting at this point it is not all that important.
In reality when they eliminated the standings requirement to anchor a POS and with empty moons all over high sec destroying a POS does not have the same affect it once did.



it still has the impact of destroying 100 mill to 1 bill worth of isk possibly stealing some items depending on the tower they used some do use faction towers in high sec even lol so there is some impact still if they return to see their isk was destroyed.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#24 - 2015-12-22 13:52:26 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Wardec them, shoot the pos, scoop the mods.

Problem solved.



Thats the issue... why destroy the controll Tower? why shouldnt that be able to be taken when you can "steal" all the modules? Steal the tower, use it urself or sell it.... recycling recycling recycling...



It's not yours. The game has no obligation to give you free stuff. Stop asking for handouts.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#25 - 2015-12-22 14:06:45 UTC
Helios Panala wrote:
Good news, CCP are going to clear out all those dead sticks for you.

Bad news, space is going to be covered with dead Citadels instead.



There will be zero reason to shoot a citadel in HS and LS. You can put the darn things anywhere, so you won't be strapped for moons. They don't drop loot - so why go through all the effort to knock over a citadel that gives you nothing.

Look at eve now and look at this thread. There are probably trillions of isk worth of mods around all the dead sticks in empire. All you have to do is war dec and oracle the dead sticks to get all that loot. No one does it, because it's a waste of their time. Boring hours of bashing a dead stick for a few modules. In HS if you dec an active corp for citadel fights - the war dec assist mechanism will stifle all but the largest corps.

What sorcery would motivate someone to go through all the entosis hoo haw for zero loot in the end? The only value in a citadel will be it's construction cost and that will only be realized in damages done on paper - not in value gained by the attacker. Eve will soon be littered w/ vacated citadels.

Citadel combat will be 1 or possibly several campaigns by the goons to stomp them for the luls and the headlines. Once they master HS citadel removal, the experiment will be over and they too will move on.

For symantics sake I'll say abaondoned citadels instead of dead citadels, but I think we mean the same thing.

For dead sticks - war dec and bash them while you can!
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#26 - 2015-12-22 14:54:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
The Ginger Sith wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:

Interesting, I shall look into it.
However since it is all theory crafting at this point it is not all that important.
In reality when they eliminated the standings requirement to anchor a POS and with empty moons all over high sec destroying a POS does not have the same affect it once did.



it still has the impact of destroying 100 mill to 1 bill worth of isk possibly stealing some items depending on the tower they used some do use faction towers in high sec even lol so there is some impact still if they return to see their isk was destroyed.

Keep wishing and some day the magic space fairies may make this come true.
If the tower is truly abandoned then the ISK will not matter to anyone or anything except you and maybe your kill board.
If it is simply offline because the corp cannot afford to keep it going then one of two things will happen. They will simply remove it when you war dec them, or they will let you blow it up because a tower is only about 3 hours worth of dedicated mission running so it really would have minimal impact and it is fun to know that you are wasting more time blowing the damned thing up than I waste to earn the money to replace it.

But in the end the answer is still the same. That tower belongs to someone else, it is by design safe from being stolen by lazy players like you and that is the way it should always be. So if that tower offends thee war dec and remove, but there is no profit in that you may say. Again that is by design, the profit for you is the location and having it empty so you can put YOUR tower there, or in the good feeling you may get from destroying something that belongs to another group of players.
The Ginger Sith
Attero Industries
#27 - 2015-12-24 00:00:21 UTC  |  Edited by: The Ginger Sith
Donnachadh wrote:
The Ginger Sith wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:

Interesting, I shall look into it.
However since it is all theory crafting at this point it is not all that important.
In reality when they eliminated the standings requirement to anchor a POS and with empty moons all over high sec destroying a POS does not have the same affect it once did.



it still has the impact of destroying 100 mill to 1 bill worth of isk possibly stealing some items depending on the tower they used some do use faction towers in high sec even lol so there is some impact still if they return to see their isk was destroyed.



Keep wishing and some day the magic space fairies may make this come true.
If the tower is truly abandoned then the ISK will not matter to anyone or anything except you and maybe your kill board.

.



when i was in a corp taking a chillax break that war dec'd the corps with dead pos in high sec and used afk oracle alts to kill them we received quite a few mails when they came back pissed off raging about their lost tower. at least half of them came back and raged give or take. so definitely not wishing for your fetish of magic space fairies :P sure this may not be the average but there is a fair bit of this happening of course you cant expect it but we turned a profit for every afk tower kill and it didnt take long with 50 oracle alts afk.
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