EVE General Discussion

Hi guys,

Dunno if this is the correct forum to post this in, if not then I apologize, but Im doing it anyway!

So I'm a Minmatar fan. In the EVE books by Tony Gonzales and Hjalti Danielsson the Minmatar are described more in-depth and come across like a proud tribal warrior race, I love that. But when I read titles/names like 'Matar' or 'Matari', referencing Minmatar people, I get confused. I'm just a simple pretty head like that and I don't understand

Is 'Minmatar' the collective name of the tribes? Is 'Matar' and/or 'Matari' an old name for the Minmatar? Please educate me on the meaning of the words 'Matar' and 'Matari' and stuff like that, so I can fly my rusty tubs even more proudly and emersed.

Thank you!

I always interpreted "Matari" as meaning "of Minmatar origin", like a ship of Minmatar design would be called a "Matari Ship"

Give Shah a cigar he has it correct (at least as far as I understand and use the terms).

I was also under the impression that 'Matari' was as vr0p said, a term to distinguish origin or affiliation.
Curious where the 'min' in 'Minmatar' comes from then. You are an 'earthling' if you're from Earth for example. Or Terran from Terra as you've said. Why then not call it a Matarian, or Mataring even, from Matar, where 'Matari' is the slang version like 'human'. But that's just semantics I guess :') fun to talk about!

Thanks for clarifying!

Mater = A single Minmatar

Matari = A offshute of the Minmatar that moved from the slave ranks to a free people within the ranks of the people that enslaved them.

Minmatar = A name given to a people that were thought of as only being usefull as slaves, but was taken and used as a central ideal to unite a race of people to rally and fight for there freedom.

Think it's more like this:

Amarr = crazy religious people
Caldari = crazy warmongering people
Gallente = crazy self righteous people
Minmatar = crazy resentful people

Cluster full of crazy people

Don't forget that in the time between the loss of all means to return to earth and today, the use of language changed.

The people that found themselves stranded in New Eden, came from different nationalities. New languages arose from the mix of original nationalities. This explains why the Gallente(ean) language sounds french but isn't. The Caldari language has Japanese influence ... and so on.

The (Min)matar are not speaking english, so they would not call themselves Matarians. On the other hand they might not call themselves Matari either. So when the lore doesn't define it clearly, players take whatever they feel comfortable with. Best example are the alliances "Electus Matari" and "Ushra K'han". They have been around so long, that their names are pretty much part of the lore even if you won't find those names in any official lore. (same for PIE on the Amarr side)

Not really because they are speaking Space Scandinavian so "Min-matar" ~ men of Matar (the Mother-world).

Ah! I see where you're going. Haven't thought of it like that!

Much like English vs. Dutch, as an example:

in English
Country is The Netherlands
Dutch is the language
and the people are Dutch, or Dutch nationality

In Dutch
'Nederland' is the country
'Nederlands' is the language
and the people are 'Nederlands', or 'Nederlandse' nationality

Where the word 'Dutch' isn't seen in the native language.

I get it Nice!



Seriously thought you'd linked to Google images, showing a trash bin or bucket.