Ships & Modules

i cant make up my mind, im gonna use it for both pve and pvp, wich one is better for ratting null and wich one is better for pvp?

for ratting, the drake have the kinetic dmg bonus witch wont help me much at my current location as EM is the damage of chice. the raven on the other hand work as good with any damage types.

on the other hand, the raven is more expensive and require more skillpoints to be trained.

pros/cons heavy missiles vs cruise missiles for ratting?

for pvp, as i understand it, the drake whould be better since its cheaper, and heavy missiles have an easier time hitting smaller targets? also the kinetic dmg bonus isnt worthless.



my conclusion is that ill have to train em both maybe, since they use alot of same skills the difference in training wont be that big?



so, what ship is better for pve and pvp and why? take into consideration the price, and dont recommend me a tengu since i cant fly it nor afford it

Neither.

For PvP, both of them are bad slow coffins.
For PvE, use Raven whenever you may push one through the gates. Because if you can't hit small targets, you just rearm your ship with rapid heavies.

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e: another reason for the Raven posting is that this ship must be one of the most popular PVE ships in use, given how many fits a simple Google search throws up...

For pve the raven will have faster finish times especially if you're not shooting rats with kinetic resist hole, so more isk/hr. also better for pvp with RHML.

Why? The bonus is for ALL launchers. You can also make 2 groups of rapid lights and help create "involuntary disassemblies".

Hey mate,

You don't seem like you know the fundimentles behind each ship, and because of this I would say stick with the Drake for now, it is cheaper, has a great tank, and ca still do really good DPS with HAM's, and Heavy Missiles, and stick to Level 3 Missions until you know the differences, strengths and weakness's of each ship at least a little bit. As for PvP, do not jump straight into Battleship or Battlecruiser PvP, I did that, and it is hard, you can't fit anything properly, nor pilot properly, yet, so, join a NPSI community, like Spectre Fleet, and fly in some fleets with Cruisers and Frigates fit, learn all the fundamentals, and then take steps. I myself fly a Megathron now, and I cope so much **** about it that it is crazy, Ravens will cope you a ton more, though I do have a Nano Raven which is pretty decent, focus on your basics first mate, otherwise you will be loosing your Raven in the first fight you take.

Of course, you can do what ever you want, but take it from a fellow newbie, don't upship so fast, you will have a hard time no just in PvP, but socially too, start small and learn, I started Battleship PvP after I lost like 20 Cruisers, 10 Frigates, Assault Frigates, and Interceptors, while this might not sound like much, I fly in, and FC a lot of fleets, so I didn't die all that much, and I have only been PvP'ing for 3 months, so trust me, it doesn't take long to PvP in those big things, but you need to learn all the PvP basics first.

Good luck, and fly free!

Raven is not flyable in PVP.
HAM drakes are decent for small scale PVP.

The first one isn't entirely true. If you know your Raven well, you will do amazing things.