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Stepping in Low/Null

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Pod Panik
Low-Sec Scrubs
#1 - 2015-12-17 14:25:15 UTC
Hello all,

I have been playing for a couple months now and I tried a good chunk of the High Sec material available to me. I have sharpen my teeths doing L4 missions, High Sec exploration (with some low sec dipping), trading, hauling and planetary interaction.

I would now like to explore the low/null sec life, including ratting, exploration (combat and exploration), and PVP combats. I know you can do a lot of these things being anchored in high sec, but I find its like only tipping the toe in the water instead of jumping full fledge. I want to live in low/null for a while and see how it goes.

What is the best way? I want my move to be well done, the proper way.

Should I find myself a low/null sec Corp and follow guidance of experienced players?

Any corps could be recommended (or avoided)?

Many thanks...



PS: Next step after that will be wormhole space


Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-12-17 14:55:18 UTC
Id join faction warfare, find a corp and learn some basic pvp and fleet mechanics, once you have a steady foot in low you can then branch out to nullsec.

You WILL lose alot of ships, its normal so dont be put off by it

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Demica Diaz
SE-1
#3 - 2015-12-17 15:01:57 UTC
Really just go there. Its not as bad as EVE "stories" let you think it is. If you avoid combat, chances are you hardly ever going to be killed and if you get yourself killed then no big deal either. It happens to all of us. Jump to next ship and off you go.

Also specially PI and exploration are ten times better to do in low than high. I wouldnt even bother to set up colony in high even if someone paid me. Bear

Just do it!Lol
Rykker Bow
Center for Advanced Studies
#4 - 2015-12-17 15:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Rykker Bow
Definitely join a FW corp. They pretty much live and breath low sec. I've lived in lowsec for the last two years and has been some of the most enjoyable content I've experienced. But now I'm more worried about high sec. Jumping into systems and seeing activity on gates... I need to stop from either messing myself or locking everything up.

Cheers... And really, just jump in and enjoy the first time jitters. You'll look back with much fondness.

The Mjolnir Bloc - Lowsec PvP for the sophisticated - The Mjolnir Bloc Killboards

lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
#5 - 2015-12-17 15:22:00 UTC  |  Edited by: lmmortalist
Lan Wang wrote:
You WILL lose alot of ships, its normal so dont be put off by it


@OP: Whenever this happens, as a general rule you should write a long post right here in GD expressing your feelings such as grief and hate towards the offender. The forum folks around here are typically very helpful bunch and will support you and even occasionally send you isk in-game to have your ship reimbursed.
Pod Panik
Low-Sec Scrubs
#6 - 2015-12-17 17:20:40 UTC
Demica Diaz wrote:
Really just go there. Its not as bad as EVE "stories" let you think it is. If you avoid combat, chances are you hardly ever going to be killed and if you get yourself killed then no big deal either. It happens to all of us. Jump to next ship and off you go.

Also specially PI and exploration are ten times better to do in low than high. I wouldnt even bother to set up colony in high even if someone paid me. Bear

Just do it!Lol



One question about the FW option...

Is it not the best way to damage faction with the main kingdoms?

So if I fight Minmatar (for example) I won't be allowed in their space afterwards...


how bad is that?
Demica Diaz
SE-1
#7 - 2015-12-17 17:23:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Demica Diaz
Pod Panik wrote:
Demica Diaz wrote:
Really just go there. Its not as bad as EVE "stories" let you think it is. If you avoid combat, chances are you hardly ever going to be killed and if you get yourself killed then no big deal either. It happens to all of us. Jump to next ship and off you go.

Also specially PI and exploration are ten times better to do in low than high. I wouldnt even bother to set up colony in high even if someone paid me. Bear

Just do it!Lol



One question about the FW option...

Is it not the best way to damage faction with the main kingdoms?

So if I fight Minmatar (for example) I won't be allowed in their space afterwards...


how bad is that?


Yeah, well you can go there but they will shoot you. I personally stayed away from FW because of that reason.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-12-17 17:29:00 UTC
I heard it's good to talk to people in local in low sec. They know you're there, after all, so being quiet isn't fooling anyone. Speak about your intentions. You'll probably get a corp invite pretty quickly. If somebody saying something about some James guy or trying to speak in CODE happens to put pixels in your face, wash your eyes out with a very caustic substance and bemoan the inability to unsee.

There just isn't anything that can be said!

Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-12-17 18:32:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Neuntausend
Actually, I'd steer clear of FW wherever possible. Grab a friend or two, and just roam non-FW low sec, looking for things to kill. You will not have as many targets, but you will also not have to deal with warp core stabs, ship limitations and frigate blobs, and you will also not ruin your standings.

That's just my preference, though.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-12-17 19:06:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Dont really learn fleet pvp and mechanics doing solo or with a friend, and friends are a good thing to have in low/null, and thats a funny thing to say being a goon ;)

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-12-17 21:33:50 UTC
Join a Spectre Fleet roam, to get a taste on PvP, fleets, and nullsec/lowsec mechanics. Getting into solo PvP is a lot of reading, studying killboards/fits and try&terror, expierience will make you win more fights over time. If you are not the self-study type of player, joining a lowsec corp would be a good idea.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#12 - 2015-12-17 23:02:45 UTC
I hear that Brave Newbies is recruiting again. They're doing FW with occasional roams into null ATM.
Brigadine Ferathine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-12-17 23:15:46 UTC
FW is broken because it makes you unable to enter areas of space years after you left. The path to repairing standings is a joke.
Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari
End of Life
#14 - 2015-12-18 02:59:57 UTC
A few years back I was at the same point you seem to be at now. I decided to go it solo (I'd had bad past experiences with corps who required more activity than my RL allowed) and move out on my own, in my own solo corp with pretty much just a hauling alt to bring stuff in and out for me. I found a nice little quiet system not too far from Rens (back then it was a decent trade hub I swear) and just started doing 'stuff'. At that point in time I wanted to keep my sec status and generally not be the aggressor, but liked the idea of kind of 'flying under the radar', being able to support myself in hostile space.

It actually worked alright. I mainly few battlecruisers for running sites as I had no idea about meta fittings and they seemed to be a good balance between being cheap enough to lose, powerful enough to run most sites, and not so slow that I couldn't gtfo if someone arrived in local. Basically I was a bear in low sec, which wasnt a terrible thing. Every now and then I'd go out roaming in a cov-ops doing exploration and practicing using dscan etc to see what other people are doing. Kind of fun, but it wasn't making me much money. I also ran a little bit of PI on the side.

Eventually I burnt out. Playing solo I had no real reason to keep logging on. I could make more money, but what for? Running sites and belt ratting for the sake of running sites got boring. I didn't have the confidence to go out and pvp on my own. After a while I kind of just stopped playing.


Then I came back to eve a year or so later. I decided to join a corp, but that I'd be honest as hell in my advert. I said I didn't really want to be part of one of the big blocks, I wanted to get out of HS, but I also probably would only be on once or twice a week. If that. I got recruited by a great bunch of people who have no activity requirements, no CTAs, no drama, just a bunch of guys who like playing the game and would love to have more chill people to play with. I moved out to NPC null, which isn't so different from low sec (we just have bubbles) and having been loving the game for the past year. They taught me how to pvp, taught me to not care about losses or killboards or isk/h. I've found it a much freer way to play the game.

So what's the point of my big wall of text? If I could go back would I do anything differently? I don't know really, it's just been my journey in eve. I'm proud that I went out and braved low sec on my own, but with the experience I have now I wouldn't do it again. Having other people to play with and learn from is just too good in this game. It's what keeps me interested and logging in. So both are good. And there's nothing stopping me from being part of my current corp but still roaming around and doing things solo, in fact I probably spend more of my game time solo than in a fleet, but I have the luxury of both.


If you do decide to join a corp my recommendation for looking for a corp is this: Be up-front about your commitment to the game, don't worry if you can only play once or twice a week because there are corps out there that are fine with this. Ask to come along on a fleet or a roam first before deciding to join. This way you get a good feel for the general culture within the corp you are joining. Are they casual or serious, does their language bother you (some people hate terms like 'jewing' etc, some people thrive on memes), do they have angry FCs, are they happy to take the time to help out new players?

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text, good luck in low sec and I hope it all work out in the end.


tl;dr I went to low solo. Got bored and left game. Came back and joined a corp. Loving the game again.
Top Guac
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-12-18 03:04:46 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
FW is broken because it makes you unable to enter areas of space years after you left. The path to repairing standings is a joke.

Daily Quac award winner right here.

For the man who has everything, the Daily Quac is awarded to the post displaying the highest levels of bullshit, matching the outstanding efforts of James Beam.

You and your constant complaining are in the running for the Yearly Quac too.

Hope you win. You seem to be well in the running.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-12-18 11:02:30 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
FW is broken because it makes you unable to enter areas of space years after you left. The path to repairing standings is a joke.


why is it broken if you cant enter space of the people you are at war with?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Hades Dark
US Space Force
Black Rose.
#17 - 2015-12-18 17:39:43 UTC
If you want to live in null sec or low sec you might want to find corps that operate in NPC space and not jump into faction warfare or Sov space. While FW is fun, you are still for the most part on your own unless you join a corp. Now you should stay away from any corp that tells you that you need to contribute X amount of isk or P.I. material a month or whatever. Fly small stuff like fast tackle frigates. that way you still get on the kill mail, its cheap, not skill intensive, and most gangs will love to have you roam with them because everyone loves fast tackle, and hates when **** gets away because people can't land a point.
Jon Essler
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-12-18 17:50:50 UTC
Always wipe your feet on the way out after stepping in Low.
Brigadine Ferathine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-12-18 19:12:28 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
FW is broken because it makes you unable to enter areas of space years after you left. The path to repairing standings is a joke.


why is it broken if you cant enter space of the people you are at war with?

I said AFTER you leave. You aren't at WAR anymore.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#20 - 2015-12-18 19:18:54 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
FW is broken because it makes you unable to enter areas of space years after you left. The path to repairing standings is a joke.


why is it broken if you cant enter space of the people you are at war with?

I said AFTER you leave. You aren't at WAR anymore.



He knows what he is talking about. Fixing faction standings is a nightmare.

Having said that, FW is so good that for many of us it is worth it.
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