EVE General Discussion

As others have stated and great advice even! I know I was too a bit afraid to traverse Losec, but keeping a sharp eye on local will certainly either make or break what ever you plan on doing, just watch yer back!

There is reason for generalizations, as they tend to make a more direct point.
When a group behaves over 75% similar, they get to be generalized as a whole.

Not all people are bad all the time, just when they're in Low Sec.

Interesting. Most of the responses in this thread have been helpful, and it seems most likely that you're going to get the best helpful advice about low sec from people who frequently live in low sec. Wouldn't that then suggest that most people in low sec are helpful?

Look I have no actual numbers, proof or recorded evidence that I can point to. But I'm also not saying '75%'. I'm personally convinced, from spending a lot of time in low sec, that most low sec players are decent people. They'll try to catch you, blow up your ship, gank you on a gate, blops you, kill your hauler, shoot your POCO etc etc etc. But there are parts of playing the game. When it comes to actually talking to them most players are decent people. You'll get called a 'scrub' or get comments like 'wrekt' every now and then, but as often as not you get a 'gf', a lot of players will get recruited, new players often have their ganked ship reimbursed (because for most 1mil isk is chump change) and be given advice on how to play next time.

I'd recommend talking to people in Low Sec next time you're out there. If you start the convo as a decent person there's a good chance you'll be able to have a good chat with them. If you start off by saying 'screw you LS scum, how dare you shoot a defenceless miner, you must have no life' etc etc then you'll more than likely just get laughed at.



For the OP, my bit of advice would be to be cautious, but if you do happen to get caught and killed start up a convo with the guy who caught you, often they're happy to give out advice. Sometime you'll get an invite to join them for a bit of a roam or something. Sometimes they'll double-cross you and shoot you again, but if you're flying something cheap it doesn't matter that much. It might happen a few times, but one of the times you might meet some pilots you really enjoy playing with, make new friends/frenemies and maybe even find a new corp. Avoid sending any kind of angry messages, that's generally a quick way to ensure they'll try to shoot you again next time. Remember that in LS most people treat eve as a PvP GAME. It's not personal, they don't want to ruin YOUR day, they just want to play eve and part of playing eve is hunting and catching other players.

There's no point to call out individuals who behave poorly in online gaming, since most who've played this game are fully aware that restraint is a secondary skill in EVE.

First off, there is no such thing as a good fight in EVE. The vast majority of players do not want a fair fight, but rather relish the exploit of numbers, It makes no difference if it's against NPC targets or PC targets,

PVE players run OP ships and multi-box to exploit the mission systems, and PVP players run in gangs and roam to exploit the gank advantage.

Both groups feel that they are amazing and neither want a challenge or risk for that matter as a rule.

The big difference is that the PVE player has no interest in ganking new players as that's not part of their play style, giving them a passive stance and a calm relationship with others, unless you want to join their Incursion fleet.

A PVP players goal is to cause grief to new players because that is their primary target model, due to the nature of being new and inexperienced. Seasoned players are already familiar with the LS travel mechanic and tend to not be bothered by LS residents. LS players feed off of new players and 100% (no generalization) don't care what ship they gank on gates or hunt and pile on kills to get on boards. I don't respect this play style as it's counter relational to me as someone who cares about balance. I would much rather a confrontation to be relatively equal, or winning means nothing to me. That's why I don't run level 1 missions in a WORM or Assault Frig, because where's the challenge.

Sorry, but I don't respect game play that promotes general bad behavior and from my 4 years of playing this game off and on, Low Sec is the breading ground for poor sportsmanship and false chest puffing. Granted 25% of the residents may be amazing sportsman and talk to their prey after the kill, but TBH in my play time, I've met only two out of hundreds of encounters that the player didn't pod me and stayed to chat.

I used to be afraid to go into low sec, but for a speedy transit - certainly not to play. And, truth be told (but not too often) I had every reason to be afraid, 'cause as a player I purely SUCKED.

NOW, I don't suffer from advanced sucktitude as I did in the past. Now, if some heathen is target locking me, I have a handful of viable options ready, not only in skill and game knowledge, but in equipment as well. And, often times when I'm in low sec being target locked, I'm locking a target myself! (Naughty! Naughty!) For, what better reason to go into low sec?

It is often said, "Don't worry about when you're good enough to go out there. Just go and see what happens!" Well, be advised, people who say things like that like to gank and rob those poor people they advised to be so brave. It's a way they lure targets into an area where they operate. I do suggest you don't venture forth into regions unless you're equipped to handle them.

EVE is combat, as well as commerce. The combat part is FUN. It's THRILLING! Sometimes, it's even satisfying - this is what winning in combat provides! However, you must remember, combat experience:

something you get just after you need it.

You have to learn to crawl before you learn to walk. You have to learn to walk before you learn to RUN...but once you've learned to RUN, sometimes you may have to learn how to walk on CRUTCHES - if you get my drift. There are no guarantees in this life. Don't start looking for them here! AND! When you come to a fork in the road, take it!