EVE General Discussion

Hello!

Hopefully this is not considered ranting as that is not my intention :)

So every day there is a thread on how "EvE is dieing" or "decline in numbers".

So if you truly believe this, why do you run here and make stupid threads based on inaccurate information or what you perceive to an issue?

Why not go to every other MMO/review/w/e site and post invites to eve?

Why not make videos on eve as much as you can?

Why not offer to help people joining eve?

Why not ask CCP to setup a player donation scheme for new players i.e players donate to a corp setup by CCP (isk) and every time an account subs to eve it gets say, 50mil isk for joining eve?

Why not set up a corp within your big, bad, scary, null sec alliance aimed to help new players?

Why not take the time to run that corp instead of trying to get on as many kill mails as possible?

Why not share eve-unis website on your facebook/twitter w/e social media?

If you truly believe eve is dieing, stop making threads and HELP CCP get new players into eve.

Instead of running here and whining about how "eve is no more" and all this nonsense. Cause quite frankly, it's getting irritating.

Regards

Shadow - P.S I won't be responding to this thread. I am simply saying, if you don't like the way things stand, get off your ass n sort it.

Because they're using "EVE is dying" support their cause and (not so) hidden agenda: "EVE is Dying unless it changes to the way I want it to change. LISTEN TO ME!".

yeah if you pay attention to them they are almost always thinly veiled moans about something that has/hasn't , will/will not be changed and/or plex.

my personal favourites are the "eve is hard,highsec isnt safe enough MAMMY CCP HE KICKED MEEEEEEE " ones.

I thought you just didn't like the "forum goers". Make up your mind buddy, do you want the game to die or the forum? Or is it you just want a single player version so you don't have to see other people?

To the OP, it's because some of us recognise that the issues don't all come down to what players do. Some require changes to come directly from CCP. Things like:
- CCP should be more open with stats, like they used to be. The loss of the QEN was a massive blow to the game as was the move to keep sub numbers quiet once they stopped going up. We all knew they were going down, so why hide it?
- CCP should also remember that this right here is their community, not reddit. A lot of the devs tend to spend more time on there than over here. That shouldn't be the case. When the community manager posts 10 times as much on reddit than on their own forum, there's a problem there.
- Old game mechanics. New players come straight into the game into some of the oldest game mechanics. It's all well and good overhauling sov and structures, but they need to put some serious work into the mechanics that people see first, to stop the immediate "this is boring" turnaway. People like Mike Azariah go well out of their way to engage with newbies, but it shouldn't be down to people like him to make the game entertaining for newbies.
- Paired up with that is a lack of challenge. Because everything is about mixing with other people, mechanical challenges basically don't exist. "click thing pres butan" is about the extent of challenge in most mechanics that aren't directly PvP, and the only thing that really matters in the game is isk, which is far too easy to acquire. The game should be a challenge even when other people aren't taken into consideration, otherwise see above, "it's boring".

I'll put in more effort when CCP does. Unfortunately I don't think they care too much now that they've managed to get Valkyrie bundled with Rift. That's going to be their main focus for some time.

I have noticed that recently the average number of players when I am online is quite a bit more than it was just a few months ago. I took a break for about two years and returned in October.

Throughout October and November the average number of players online when I log in 0200 to 0400 GMT, was 14 to 16K, over the last week or so it has easily been over 20K every night.

For your reading pleasure Tranquility Status Monitor

Why is that?

EVE has been dying since its creation.

It will Always Continue Dying For the rest of Time/Eternity.


(( Basically Im saying don't listen to the Nay Sayers and do with EVE as you will regardless of what others say ))

why would I do any of that if eve is dying :p

I help out on the forums and in eve-scout, and generally try to stay positive. As someone else said most of the eve is dying type posts are very specific whines about something.

Shadow - "P.S I won't be responding to this thread. I am simply saying, if you don't like the way things stand, get off your ass n sort it."


I'm sometimes tempted to scream my lungs out about how stupid everyone within hearing range is, and then put my fingers in my ears at times as well. But then I realize that openly treating my readers with disdain might make the entire effort of writing null and void, as I'd invoke the human reaction of 'shooting the messenger' strongly enough to have them distracted from the message.

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