Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello, at start just wanna say sorry for my english skills but i will try to type it in simple way.

A lot of players treat jump clones as implants holders, i dont have to much alt accounts so i use my main for pvp and for pve, its pretty anoying when i want to farm i need to jump into my pve clone and i am stucked in it for a long time. After for eg. 3h farming i want to go pvp etc, and i cant becouse i will not risk my expensive implant for pvp so i cant enjoy game in 100%.

I know that delay is becouse people would travel too fast across the map BUT.
Why dont you allow people to get in Jump Clone when they are on this same station without delay? SIMPLE :>

What do you think about it players, what do you think about it CCP.

It was done on purpose. If there was no restriction on such activities, it'd be possible to jump between Querious, Venal, Great Wildlands, Curse and Pure Blind in few minutes, so it COULD lead to people being able to deploy simultanously anywhere in space.

Current system works good as it is. If you want to rat, go do it. You can do it 19h, then change jumpclone.

Best way could be if you don't use expensive pods for pvp in nullsec...

at the moment, it's not possible to have more than one JC in one station at the same time (legacy code i guess).

but once that changes, i could actually get behind this. but it would definitely have to be limited to JCs in the same station!!

+1

Not true my firend, they will be, every time you decide to risk them :>

I believe the DEVs wanted you to choose and commit to an activity rather than jump around and min/max with implant sets.

If you want to go PvPing, do so. Your implants are not stopping you. You are because you are afraid. That is a player issue, not a gameplay issue.

If you think people are going to pop on a casual/fun null/wh roam with a HG slave set plugged in from a prior op I have a bridge to sell you.

They just don't, save extreme edge cases, because doing so it flat out stupid and the smart move is not playing.


I'm all for "HTFU" but there does come a point where common sense enters the equation and people not undocking doesn't just affect them but the people they would have interacted with had they gone out.

Yes, I find it somewhat paradoxical.

"Don't fly what you [wouldnt want to or can't] replace"
"Omfg don't be such a pussy, go run as a sabre with a HG set in!"

I mean, everyone has a good chuckle at the "billion isk, plex tanked frigate" - yet that's exactly what a HG set (or similar) going on a fun T3 roam is yet people are ostracised for suggesting that maybe it's just arbitrary stifling of life.

Wait...what? Can people genuinely not see the disconnect/hypocrisy there?

Well there's that but for me the more irritating thing is there is no meaningful choice. In a HG clone with a timer ticking there's no choice to be had when you want to have fun/roam , only a mistake to be made. It's very analogous to the old clone grades although not quite as bad.

Some say you made your choice when you jumped and that's true - but really, who gains? I'll play fallout and they won't get a fight. I risk the implants on the strat op, why am I married to them afterwards when it only denies content (unless mistakes are made)

If we assume there are few mistakes made (reasonable) then all we have is something that blocks potential content for the following 20 hours.

/Shrug. Seems silly.

I've always wished that you could remove implants with out destroying them, but they would be locked to your character. I mean, one of the great things about EVE is you can choose what ship and modules you want to put at risk depending on the situation without penalty, but implants are a completely different story.

"Don't fly what you can't afford to lose."
Well, I've got my HGs in my head for 19 more hours, guess I won't be flying until then...

First and foremost - this topic has been discussed to death, I don't know how many times.

Second - CCP has spoken against making changes to JC (true reason is probably the legacy code will break the whole game)

But, I would stand by a system that allowed faster jump cloning in the form of JC Fatigue.
Set the shortest jump time to say 2 hours with the max being 24 - (player skill) [so as low as 19hrs]

Now - unlike many of the people above me, I do tend to fly in crazy expensive clones, but generally speaking only because I can be bothered with PVP'n for 30 minutes and having to wait the next 20 hours to JC again. Generally speaking, I will undock for larger fleet ops, but never do solo PVP.