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[December] Command Destroyers

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RcTamiya
Magister Mortalis.
#621 - 2015-12-07 14:03:26 UTC
LordInvisible wrote:
Hmm, I dont like this "feature" either:

- without a dedicated tackler, thats there only focused on catching !possible! Command destroyer, nobody is gonna lock it in 4 seconds (1second is wasted on server tick btw..)

- everything not already running MWD (apart from some frigs) cannot get out of 6km radius in 5 seconds. To accelerate to 1km/s you need 3-4 seconds on a speed fitted cruiser. Then you have to travel for another 3.5km in one second.

- ship is boring outside of this new module usage, total garbage. Doesnt add anything that other ships wouldnt do better and have some other role in fleet at the same time. Stupid bonuses add to this even more: who is gonna launch drones if his only point is to warp 100km away?

- Nerf to drone ships maybe? All the rattlers gonna loose shitton of drones suddenly (mainly sentry drones). Hello smartbombing, insta warping BSs..

- If anything, this kind of feature should be tied up to a battlecruiser or BS.

But CCP already did it, no point in pointing out stupid things they do while there is plenty of others that needs fixing. Its their game afterall.

One question tho: if you fit three WCS, does that negate scram?



To your Question -> No, you're allowed to warp, but your mwd stays blocked.


I hope CCP changes it to only drag fleetmembers, otherwise NOT balanced and yes I do LOVE to abuse it.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#622 - 2015-12-07 23:55:48 UTC
I expect these are already banned from the next AT. Blink
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#623 - 2015-12-08 07:10:55 UTC
So I was messing about with the Pontifex on Singularity earlier. Sicced the drones on something and MJFGed myself away. Drones kept cheerfully murdering it until it died.

Is that supposed to happen? Not sure it's even unique to the MJFG, just never really bothered to play with MJDs before.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#624 - 2015-12-08 07:16:26 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
So I was messing about with the Pontifex on Singularity earlier. Sicced the drones on something and MJFGed myself away. Drones kept cheerfully murdering it until it died.

Is that supposed to happen? Not sure it's even unique to the MJFG, just never really bothered to play with MJDs before.

Is it intended? who knows. But it does properly follow the existing mechanics.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#625 - 2015-12-08 07:19:48 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I expect these are already banned from the next AT. Blink

"It seems the red Team has been jumped outside of the field of play by quite a distance. It looks like they wont have time to make it back before they are disqualified and as warping is illegal well call that a game ladies and gentlemen."
Grease PaYN
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#626 - 2015-12-08 18:16:55 UTC
It seems the magus and pontifex have a drone hitpoint bonus, this is not stated in the original post of this thread.
Intentional?
suicide
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#627 - 2015-12-08 20:34:26 UTC
Fully loaded these command destroyers have 1m20s of cap which almost mandates having an injector if you don't want to end up stranded in space.

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#628 - 2015-12-09 00:15:36 UTC
Can the Bifrost get 1 more powergrid so I don't need a 1% implant for this fit? TIA!

[Bifrost, Ala Kachuu]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Micro Jump Field Generator
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Warp Scrambler II

Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
[Empty High slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Kaska Iskalar
Doomheim
#629 - 2015-12-10 10:02:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaska Iskalar
Never mind. I'm stupid and can't read.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#630 - 2015-12-10 20:44:12 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I expect these are already banned from the next AT. Blink


Depends on the collusion.

Not today spaghetti.

Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#631 - 2015-12-10 22:24:17 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
So I was messing about with the Pontifex on Singularity earlier. Sicced the drones on something and MJFGed myself away. Drones kept cheerfully murdering it until it died.

Is that supposed to happen? Not sure it's even unique to the MJFG, just never really bothered to play with MJDs before.


That is how drones work. Once you sic them on the target you are within range of; they will attack that target until dead, until killed, or until you call them back. Even if they go out of your control range.
rsantos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#632 - 2015-12-11 16:42:54 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
Can the Bifrost get 1 more powergrid so I don't need a 1% implant for this fit? TIA!

[Bifrost, Ala Kachuu]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Micro Jump Field Generator
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Warp Scrambler II

Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
[Empty High slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II


How long before a nerf bat thread is started?!
Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#633 - 2015-12-11 17:14:32 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
Can the Bifrost get 1 more powergrid so I don't need a 1% implant for this fit? TIA!

[Bifrost, Ala Kachuu]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Micro Jump Field Generator
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Warp Scrambler II

Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
[Empty High slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II


Do you not have the CPU for a faction MAPC? The navy one, not thukker. Its like 5-8m last i checked. If you dont have the CPU, meta your dcu and you should be good.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#634 - 2015-12-11 18:39:39 UTC
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:
Can the Bifrost get 1 more powergrid so I don't need a 1% implant for this fit? TIA!

[Bifrost, Ala Kachuu]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Micro Jump Field Generator
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Warp Scrambler II

Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
[Empty High slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II


Do you not have the CPU for a faction MAPC? The navy one, not thukker. Its like 5-8m last i checked. If you dont have the CPU, meta your dcu and you should be good.


Better still, meta the scram.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#635 - 2015-12-11 19:05:26 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:
Can the Bifrost get 1 more powergrid so I don't need a 1% implant for this fit? TIA!

[Bifrost, Ala Kachuu]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Micro Jump Field Generator
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Warp Scrambler II

Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
[Empty High slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II


Do you not have the CPU for a faction MAPC? The navy one, not thukker. Its like 5-8m last i checked. If you dont have the CPU, meta your dcu and you should be good.


Better still, meta the scram.


Ah true. That is a better suggestion. T2 scram OH poorly. Meta is same range, better OH and easier to fit (just more expensive).
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#636 - 2015-12-12 05:13:35 UTC
That silly fit actually works just fine and has plenty of CPU:

Quote:
[Bifrost, Bifrost copy 1]
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Micro Jump Field Generator

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
[empty high slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

PostWithYourMain
Main Corporation
Prisoners With Jobs
#637 - 2015-12-12 18:50:35 UTC
These things are complete Eve aids.
Soden Rah
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#638 - 2015-12-13 01:35:59 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
Mr Grape Drink wrote:
Does a scram shut it off like a regular MJD?


Yes, scram will shut off an active MJFG and will also keep any targets in range of one that fires from taking the jump.



Ok... So I have a question.

Ship A and Ship B are both in the AOE for the MJFG from ship C.

Ship B engages a Scram on Ship A.

Ship C activates MJFG.

Now according to you ship A [which is scrammed] stays where it is... What happens to ship B?
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#639 - 2015-12-13 14:51:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
these are massively fun

best thing you guys have added to eve since warp bubbles
this ***** awesome

The people complaining are just angry they didnt know about these before they were added, and lost their **** while playing station games.

This solves station games, and adds the first new pvp gameplay mechanic in years. And it GREATLY benefits small gangs, which is exactly what null/low needs more of

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

Arla Sarain
#640 - 2015-12-13 15:57:54 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
Can the Bifrost get 1 more powergrid so I don't need a 1% implant for this fit? TIA!

[Bifrost, Ala Kachuu]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Micro Jump Field Generator
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Warp Scrambler II

Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
[Empty High slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II

Use a navy power core. They're cheap.