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This is why people don't ever go into 0.0 space anymore

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#141 - 2012-01-08 03:48:26 UTC
Look at all these high sec pubbies pretending they know something about nullsec.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

met worst
Doomheim
#142 - 2012-01-08 04:39:00 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Look at all these high sec pubbies pretending they know something about nullsec.

Miss Harlot

You will find many alts posting who DO have experience of nullsec - and left.

They left because they felt they would be part of something big and fascinating when in fact they were no more than a cog in the RMT machine.

It's all a numbers game with quaint terminology such as "fight the good fight" etc... a metaphor for the lords to state "my *** is bigger than yours" as they raid someone elses turf for a totally different motive than their sheep believe.

Yes boys, fight for FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY yadda ya - TRADE and COMMERCE are in fact the motive.

To whit, the motivation for Goons taking MORE space is what? Politics? Feelgood? Breaking Eve?

Or RMT?
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
Brave Collective
#143 - 2012-01-08 04:54:54 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:

Anyone with a knowledge of naval warfare KNOWS the main problem is finding the enemy and pinning him down. Neither of those is certain, and when it's accomplished it's UNIQUE, and not the rule. PROVE you can actually fight. Lose the warp scrams and webefiers. Use some sort of SKILL, then brag.

.


Real iife warfare comparisons mean nothing.
The other day i was being taunted by a frigate warping off from undock and back. This is in 0.0 mind you. Found i couldn't scram the little thing, even with my sebo II scripted for sig res.
Brainstorm, fit my tackler with 2 short points for a total of 4 points. Result: frigate, pod and tears due to pod being worth just under 100 m isk.

This is me bragging, by the way. Would you like to know ALL the counters to webs and scrams? Bet you would.



Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Vyl Vit
#144 - 2012-01-08 05:05:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:

Anyone with a knowledge of naval warfare KNOWS the main problem is finding the enemy and pinning him down. Neither of those is certain, and when it's accomplished it's UNIQUE, and not the rule. PROVE you can actually fight. Lose the warp scrams and webefiers. Use some sort of SKILL, then brag.

.


Real iife warfare comparisons mean nothing.
The other day i was being taunted by a frigate warping off from undock and back. This is in 0.0 mind you. Found i couldn't scram the little thing, even with my sebo II scripted for sig res.
Brainstorm, fit my tackler with 2 short points for a total of 4 points. Result: frigate, pod and tears due to pod being worth just under 100 m isk.

This is me bragging, by the way. Would you like to know ALL the counters to webs and scrams? Bet you would.




Funny. You always say that...real life warfare...blah blah. You know WHY? 'Cause you have your CRUTCH, that's why. If you had to do it for real, your results would be palpably WORSE than the best naval commanders of history since you haven't ever DONE it and haven't got a clue HOW. Is it that difficult to figure out?

The frigate was taunting me.

Counters to web/scram are beside the point...and, look at the Goonwaffle pretending to understand something that's difficult.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#145 - 2012-01-08 05:10:09 UTC
met worst wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Look at all these high sec pubbies pretending they know something about nullsec.

Miss Harlot

You will find many alts posting who DO have experience of nullsec - and left.

They left because they felt they would be part of something big and fascinating when in fact they were no more than a cog in the RMT machine.

If you are in a corp or alliance where you feel like a cog in an RMT machine then leave it and join another one. Anybody who thinks that all nullsec alliances are the same is an idiot.

I'm not saying there are no bad alliances in nullsec but people who join one and get discouraged and then give up are the last people that should be commenting on the state of 0.0.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
Brave Collective
#146 - 2012-01-08 05:35:00 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:

Anyone with a knowledge of naval warfare KNOWS the main problem is finding the enemy and pinning him down. Neither of those is certain, and when it's accomplished it's UNIQUE, and not the rule. PROVE you can actually fight. Lose the warp scrams and webefiers. Use some sort of SKILL, then brag.

.


Real iife warfare comparisons mean nothing.
The other day i was being taunted by a frigate warping off from undock and back. This is in 0.0 mind you. Found i couldn't scram the little thing, even with my sebo II scripted for sig res.
Brainstorm, fit my tackler with 2 short points for a total of 4 points. Result: frigate, pod and tears due to pod being worth just under 100 m isk.

This is me bragging, by the way. Would you like to know ALL the counters to webs and scrams? Bet you would.




Funny. You always say that...real life warfare...blah blah. You know WHY? 'Cause you have your CRUTCH, that's why. If you had to do it for real, your results would be palpably WORSE than the best naval commanders of history since you haven't ever DONE it and haven't got a clue HOW. Is it that difficult to figure out?

The frigate was taunting me.

Counters to web/scram are beside the point...and, look at the Goonwaffle pretending to understand something that's difficult.



If I had to do what for real? Blow up a spaceship? What the hell are you on about?

Also, you don't know me, where i've been or what i've done and you don't know null sec, so criticisms of either don't count, coming from you.

Love my scrams n webs, props to hero tackling newbs in T1 frigs that secure T2 kills.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#147 - 2012-01-08 05:52:36 UTC
i was solo roaming in ~MY HOUND~ and i ran into a sensor boosting hurricane. i chuckled, decloaked and started firing torps at him

he instalocked me and volleyed me with his 720s that is COMPLETELY UNFAIR aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

met worst
Doomheim
#148 - 2012-01-08 05:57:35 UTC
Andski wrote:
i was solo roaming in ~MY HOUND~ and i ran into a sensor boosting hurricane. i chuckled, decloaked and started firing torps at him

he instalocked me and volleyed me with his 720s that is COMPLETELY UNFAIR aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Goon

Solo

Lie
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#149 - 2012-01-08 06:00:08 UTC
why would I play eve online (a world-class spaceship game lol) solo when i can invite any number of my jabber bros to join me in playing eve online

answer that

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

met worst
Doomheim
#150 - 2012-01-08 06:10:42 UTC
Andski wrote:
why would I play eve online (a world-class spaceship game lol) solo when i can invite any number of my jabber bros to join me in playing eve online

answer that

Derp.

Answered.
Mal Mandrake
Han Ventures
#151 - 2012-01-08 06:15:47 UTC
This may inspire you toward PVP

Flight of Dragons
Regam Voss
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#152 - 2012-01-08 06:41:36 UTC
Just wanna ask one question.


If NO ONE goes to null anymore WHY are there huge fleet fights there ALL the time?

p.s @ OP I was in null 2 days ago, know what i did when jumping into a gate camp? I turned on my MWD and left.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
Brave Collective
#153 - 2012-01-08 06:53:48 UTC
Regam Voss wrote:
Just wanna ask one question.


If NO ONE goes to null anymore WHY are there huge fleet fights there ALL the time?

p.s @ OP I was in null 2 days ago, know what i did when jumping into a gate camp? I turned on my MWD and left.


As someone who enjoys the odd gatecamp i must most vigorously protest!
Use of a Microwarp drive is absurd, there's no such thing for a start, they never had them in WWII naval combat and as far as i know Admiral Nelson and Chung-Mu both had to do without them or their equivalent.
Therefore anyone who uses them is incompetent in real life combat and unfairly dominant in game.



Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#154 - 2012-01-08 06:58:12 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:

TLDR: I came, I saw, I got ganked, I got vindicated


No, thats not it.

In after the lock :P   - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies

Morganta
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
#155 - 2012-01-08 07:51:30 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
...assorted tears and fallacies


did it occur to you to not aggress and burn back to the gate?

now just because you have not yet learned how to do something does not mean nobody else is doing it either
learn2play and you'll make less mistakes like getting killed by a broadsword and/or crying about it on the forums
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#156 - 2012-01-08 08:28:52 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Jason McCoy wrote:
wow blame ccp for your stupidity

another one, jeeze its friday night, and im stuck at work. Someone get me a double rum and coke plz.


Okay then, how do you beat a tech 2 broadsword with a tech 1 destroyer?




You don't. You can't.


But my gimped exploration Cyclone has been beating Tech 2, Tech 3, blobs, carriers, you name it, for almost 3 years, flying solo in high, low, 0.0, and WH.

And I never fired a shot.

You ever meet those snacktical tactical guys, the badass recon types, who go into the field with all those machine guns, armor, and fancy gear?
Ask them if you meet them. And they will tell you that the gun is for when they screw up. Their priority is not to take on the enemy platoon/battalion in the area. They have a specific mission, engage what they are after, whatever that is, and get out. If they never fire a shot, that's good, because the enemy never saw them.

You did two things wrong:

1. You didn't avoid the enemy at all costs.
2. You didn't equip for the screwup that could happen when #1 fails.


Yes, the "ganktards" who have nothing better to do than rack up the KMs are ruining the game, but they are just a little dumber than NPC drones and more predictable. You screwed the pooch and got smacked. Live with it, but figure out a way to not end up on their Killboard. That killboard is why they are out there, and staying off it is how you beat them.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Valei Khurelem
#157 - 2012-01-08 08:35:50 UTC
Herzog :) No troll, that is honestly the most intelligent response I've read so far.

*high fives*

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#158 - 2012-01-08 16:10:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Falin Whalen
For 8 pages, people have been telling you to learn the game, and now cause someone is nice enough to take you by the hand and tell you nicely what has been said throughout this thread, you listen? I don't think EvE is your kind of game. I think you would have a better experience playing Hello Kitty Online, than EvE. I hear they are supper nice at teaching you how to play their game.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 

Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
#159 - 2012-01-08 16:29:11 UTC
People say stupid people play EVE and from a certain point of view, people are right.

Out of around 50 million people playing online games less than half a million were too stupid to realize the game was rigged.
Captain Alcatraz
Did he say Jump
Dock Workers
#160 - 2012-01-08 17:15:42 UTC