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Valkyrie : To Buy or Not to Buy
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Budrick3
Moira.
#1 - 2015-12-10 17:02:59 UTC
First I will say that I have played Valkyrie at Fan Fest, and absolutely loved it. It was fun, graphics in my opinion were on point, and game play brought back some memories of X-wing vs Tie fighter.

If I were to buy the Oculus Rift, the investment would be mainly for Valkyrie because other titles don't intrigue me much.

So my concern is this...

Is Valkyrie going to be more vaporware like the majority of CCP's other titles where they release it and barely support it, or does CCP have more than a handful of people dedicated to making sure this new pioneered experience becomes all that it can be?

As much as I want to lye to myself, I know from past experiences that if something is not profitable right off that bat, CCP will do the absolute minimum to keep up appearances with public relations, and slowly abandon it.

Biggest example to date would be DUST 514, and the apparent abandonment of Legion?

Would past failures like DUST 514 make you think twice before investing in another one of CCP's products? Share your thoughts below...
Solecist Project
#2 - 2015-12-10 17:11:04 UTC
Only that Dust is actually profitable...

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Nalia White
Tencus
#3 - 2015-12-10 17:13:41 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Only that Dust is actually profitable...


source?

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Budrick3
Moira.
#4 - 2015-12-10 17:15:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Budrick3
Solecist Project wrote:
Only that Dust is actually profitable...



It just became profitable recently, and that is because all of the third world countries started buying ps3 and dust is free to play.

Hilmar was interviewed just recently and stated that they just started turning a profit on the game.

There is barely any support for the game so please dont try to defend it.

CCP released the game for ps3 6 months before the ps4 came out, and then had no plans for ps4 or backward compatibility.
Solecist Project
#5 - 2015-12-10 17:20:41 UTC
March ...
... is not recently ...
... but okay.

I am not defending anything ...
... and thanks for exposing your ****** attitude early enough.

You may have the last word, I'm sure you need it.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Budrick3
Moira.
#6 - 2015-12-10 17:28:15 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
March ...
... is not recently ...
... but okay.

I am not defending anything ...
... and thanks for exposing your ****** attitude early enough.

You may have the last word, I'm sure you need it.


Thanks, Ill use the last word to my advantage.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#7 - 2015-12-10 18:25:07 UTC
Budrick3 wrote:
CCP released the game for ps3 6 months before the ps4 came out, and then had no plans for ps4 or backward compatibility.

they showcased project legion at fanfest 14 and got shat on by the dust community, and we haven't heard anything about it since, and now the dust community cries out #portdust514

With Valkyire they have a bunch of outside investment and sounds like oculus (now part of facebook) is pretty interested in it too. It turning into vapor ware would be a very bad thing for CCP.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#8 - 2015-12-10 18:48:33 UTC
PS: looks like you might not actually have to buy it ;) https://twitter.com/oculus/status/674983291527671808

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d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-12-10 20:08:27 UTC
I wouldn't bother until it's release and has proven itself.

Been around since the beginning.
Kaska Iskalar
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-12-11 00:05:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaska Iskalar
Budrick3 wrote:
As much as I want to lye to myself,

Lye to yourself?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#11 - 2015-12-11 11:12:29 UTC
Valkyrie is an amazing game and tons of fun - even if I get a bit motion sick myself (probably bc I haven't mastered the settings yet). I have full faith in this title to become huge - the only concern that I may have is if it will or how it will be connected to EVE in similar ways that Dust is - if that is to happen and how that may affect things - and the worry is that Valkyrie will like magic pop up on facebook feeds as a social feature...

/c

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Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-12-11 11:40:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
The future of gaming is the holodeck - or as close as they can get to it. And, believe me, there are folks out there trying. Not to see if it can or will be done, but to be involved in it when it comes to be. Valkyrie is a substantial step in this direction. (As such, it has already put CCP in yet another chapter of computer gaming history.)

I often tell people to do EVE's trial just to be part of the history that is computer gaming. I tell them, "You may not want to subscribe, but you owe it to yourself to take a look at it, if only to say you've seen it." Valkyrie looks like the same thing in that sense, and in that sense if you have the fundage to be a part of this early development, you do owe it to yourself
in that regard - to be a part of history however small.

If you're one of these people who consider themselves self-proclaimed gaming experts who play games just to make proclamations from on high about their sucktitude or lack thereof, you're probably not the sort of person who should be involved in a seminal activity. There's bound to be something to criticize, however minute, and we wouldn't want anyone to be unduly upset now, would we?

The problem with absolute immersion will always pivot on the interface. Oculus is certainly not the final word in this. The group that developed it will be the first to tell you, twenty years from now there will be this type of interface gaming world-wide as the rule, and they intend to have a product in there providing this interface. It won't be this one. This is a step along the way.

A great movie directed by Mamoru Oshii and written by Kazunori Itō, Avalon gets into this sort of total immersion gaming quite well. This is one of my all time favorite flicks, and if you get a chance to see it...DO. You should be suitably impressed.

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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#13 - 2015-12-11 11:53:47 UTC
If Valkyrie will work without a VR headset, I'll pay attention. I'm still running on 4:3 screens.

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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#14 - 2015-12-11 13:27:33 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
If Valkyrie will work without a VR headset, I'll pay attention. I'm still running on 4:3 screens.


Nah, it's built for VR. A non-VR version is unlikely.

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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#15 - 2015-12-11 15:41:43 UTC
Chribba wrote:
even if I get a bit motion sick myself (probably bc I haven't mastered the settings yet). /c
Ginger capsules can be a big help in avoiding motion sickness.
Starrakatt
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#16 - 2015-12-11 15:47:38 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
The future of gaming is the holodeck - or as close as they can get to it. And, believe me, there are folks out there trying. Not to see if it can or will be done, but to be involved in it when it comes to be. Valkyrie is a substantial step in this direction. (As such, it has already put CCP in yet another chapter of computer gaming history.)

I often tell people to do EVE's trial just to be part of the history that is computer gaming. I tell them, "You may not want to subscribe, but you owe it to yourself to take a look at it, if only to say you've seen it." Valkyrie looks like the same thing in that sense, and in that sense if you have the fundage to be a part of this early development, you do owe it to yourself
in that regard - to be a part of history however small.

If you're one of these people who consider themselves self-proclaimed gaming experts who play games just to make proclamations from on high about their sucktitude or lack thereof, you're probably not the sort of person who should be involved in a seminal activity. There's bound to be something to criticize, however minute, and we wouldn't want anyone to be unduly upset now, would we?

The problem with absolute immersion will always pivot on the interface. Oculus is certainly not the final word in this. The group that developed it will be the first to tell you, twenty years from now there will be this type of interface gaming world-wide as the rule, and they intend to have a product in there providing this interface. It won't be this one. This is a step along the way.

A great movie directed by Mamoru Oshii and written by Kazunori Itō, Avalon gets into this sort of total immersion gaming quite well. This is one of my all time favorite flicks, and if you get a chance to see it...DO. You should be suitably impressed.

"Who called for the reset?"

Just made me make one more step forward getting the thing, ty for making me remember that movie. (heading out to watch it again) Smile

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Budrick3
Moira.
#17 - 2015-12-11 16:08:34 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
The future of gaming is the holodeck - or as close as they can get to it. And, believe me, there are folks out there trying. Not to see if it can or will be done, but to be involved in it when it comes to be. Valkyrie is a substantial step in this direction. (As such, it has already put CCP in yet another chapter of computer gaming history.)

I often tell people to do EVE's trial just to be part of the history that is computer gaming. I tell them, "You may not want to subscribe, but you owe it to yourself to take a look at it, if only to say you've seen it." Valkyrie looks like the same thing in that sense, and in that sense if you have the fundage to be a part of this early development, you do owe it to yourself
in that regard - to be a part of history however small.

If you're one of these people who consider themselves self-proclaimed gaming experts who play games just to make proclamations from on high about their sucktitude or lack thereof, you're probably not the sort of person who should be involved in a seminal activity. There's bound to be something to criticize, however minute, and we wouldn't want anyone to be unduly upset now, would we?

The problem with absolute immersion will always pivot on the interface. Oculus is certainly not the final word in this. The group that developed it will be the first to tell you, twenty years from now there will be this type of interface gaming world-wide as the rule, and they intend to have a product in there providing this interface. It won't be this one. This is a step along the way.

A great movie directed by Mamoru Oshii and written by Kazunori Itō, Avalon gets into this sort of total immersion gaming quite well. This is one of my all time favorite flicks, and if you get a chance to see it...DO. You should be suitably impressed.

"Who called for the reset?"


Well written. Though I agree with the majority of what you said, my concern still rests with CCP's behavior after launch. If DUST is any indication of their attitude post launch, then I will suffice to say it will be another let down.

Considering the game is going to be bundled with the VR pre-order, I am concerned with CCP's faith in their own product. I hope I am wrong in saying this, but it feels like launch is going to be a one hit wonder, and they took the offer from Oculus as a bit of insurance to make sure they get back the money that they at least invested in it. From there it is more than likely going to be Marcro transactions out the butt considering the prices that CCP wants for their skins, and it will slowely kill itself due to lack of updates similar to Dust and no new content or context in relation to the Eve Universe. Basically it will be something neat for 6 months, and then everyone will forget about it.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#18 - 2015-12-11 16:15:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
If it is arena pvp i will not buy it if it is much much more probably I will buy it.


Edit

If it come dirt cheap on steam will buy it regardless just because library.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#19 - 2015-12-11 16:21:34 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:

I am not defending anything ...
... and thanks for exposing your ****** attitude early enough.

You may have the last word, I'm sure you need it.




You seem a bit aggrieved


Take your ellipses and relax

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Max Muni
Muni Corp
#20 - 2015-12-11 16:25:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Muni
It seems like a very short lived twitch game play, maybe that's why it's going to be free with OR.

Looks a great deal like Arena Commander with perhaps a little better aiming system.
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