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Sojourn

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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#181 - 2015-12-05 10:32:06 UTC
I think you have a fairly thick skin, even if you do not see it.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#182 - 2015-12-08 12:45:36 UTC
So let's review where we're at now. Lady Jenneth has sojourned —

— with wayward, liberal Amarrians who refuse to order her whom to kill
— with mercenaries who tell her to kill more or less indiscriminately

The result of this incomplete education is clear — pages and pages of doubt and angst. The solution is clear, someone among the Chosen needs to step up and give Lady Jenneth some clear orders about killing. I've tried and she ain't having my advice, so its up to you, Amarr Bloc — at least one of you needs to stop being so wayward and liberal and state in clear, certain instructions who needs killing and who doesn't need killing.

And why should you do this, O wayward liberal Amarrian? Not for her soul, which is already condemned to the Pit for her membership in SFRIM (unless she should stop sinning and then offer three correctly consecrated Minmatar, one of each blood line, upon the Altar of God, consume their blood, and carry it in a golden vial around her neck). No, you should instruct her in killing because if you do not, she will eventually find her way to the Minmatar. They won't be having any religious qualms about ordering her to kill. Not at all.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#183 - 2015-12-08 16:05:10 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
So let's review where we're at now. Lady Jenneth has sojourned —

— with wayward, liberal Amarrians who refuse to order her whom to kill
— with mercenaries who tell her to kill more or less indiscriminately

The result of this incomplete education is clear — pages and pages of doubt and angst.


... okay. That's odd. That actually hurts. I'm a little bit impressed, Mr. Nauplius.

You did leave out the sort of large detail that I wasn't really having all that much doubt and angst until I started visiting the Federation. I have been learning from them, just, maybe not the things I meant to.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#184 - 2015-12-08 21:08:31 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
three correctly consecrated Minmatar, one of each blood line


So, what, you just ignore the other bloodlines? That doesn't sound like you, Naupy. No going after the Thukker, Krusual, Nefantar, or Starkmanir?
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#185 - 2015-12-08 21:29:27 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
three correctly consecrated Minmatar, one of each blood line


So, what, you just ignore the other bloodlines? That doesn't sound like you, Naupy. No going after the Thukker, Krusual, Nefantar, or Starkmanir?


Hush! Don't give him ideas!
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#186 - 2015-12-08 21:33:49 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
So let's review where we're at now. Lady Jenneth has sojourned —

— with wayward, liberal Amarrians who refuse to order her whom to kill
— with mercenaries who tell her to kill more or less indiscriminately

The result of this incomplete education is clear — pages and pages of doubt and angst.


... okay. That's odd. That actually hurts. I'm a little bit impressed, Mr. Nauplius.

You did leave out the sort of large detail that I wasn't really having all that much doubt and angst until I started visiting the Federation. I have been learning from them, just, maybe not the things I meant to.


Actually that is not true. Society pilots are ordered to adhere to a NRDS policy. Specifically, Society pilots are authorized to fire on and engage those "Red" to the Society which include heretics and apostates to the Faith, traitors to the Empire, enemies of the Empire, criminals in violation of the Concord treaties to which the Empire has bound itself, and, oh, you, Nauplius.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#187 - 2015-12-08 23:24:36 UTC
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
So let's review where we're at now. Lady Jenneth has sojourned —

— with wayward, liberal Amarrians who refuse to order her whom to kill
— with mercenaries who tell her to kill more or less indiscriminately

The result of this incomplete education is clear — pages and pages of doubt and angst.


... okay. That's odd. That actually hurts. I'm a little bit impressed, Mr. Nauplius.

You did leave out the sort of large detail that I wasn't really having all that much doubt and angst until I started visiting the Federation. I have been learning from them, just, maybe not the things I meant to.


Actually that is not true. Society pilots are ordered to adhere to a NRDS policy. Specifically, Society pilots are authorized to fire on and engage those "Red" to the Society which include heretics and apostates to the Faith, traitors to the Empire, enemies of the Empire, criminals in violation of the Concord treaties to which the Empire has bound itself, and, oh, you, Nauplius.


The mere existence of your corporation's NRDS policy is obviously inadequate to Lady Jenneth's development, hence her continuing angst. What she is crying out for is someone who would use her as a weapon the way a hunter uses a hunting bird, and the Amarr Bloc is so wayward and liberal that it is unable to provide this straight forward guidance that would be an obvious duty to even someone with a moderately traditional view of the Reclaiming. I mean, think about this a moment: the second most conservative Amarr-aligned pilot apart from myself is of all people Samira Kernher. No wonder Lady Jenneth is so adrift and confused; your fluffy, happy, liberal Amarr Bloc is so adrift that you cannot possibly give her the steady guidance she so obviously wants and needs.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#188 - 2015-12-09 00:17:32 UTC
Mr. Nauplius, you've really got the wrong idea.

For one thing, the rule against killing was never the Society's position; that was something someone else did. Also, a hunting bird is typically flown at specific targets, rather than just turned loose to wander and kill.

And ... the Society does have use for me that way. I'll need to talk about that another time, though. I'm a little shaken up.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#189 - 2015-12-09 00:29:17 UTC
I still cannot believe that I am being begrudged for refraining from taking advantage of someone.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#190 - 2015-12-09 00:52:56 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
I still cannot believe that I am being begrudged for refraining from taking advantage of someone.


If it helps, one, that's not what the grudge is really about, and two, I'm bad at grudges.

Fortunately, or something, you're really good at keeping me mad at you.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#191 - 2015-12-09 01:35:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Entry Twenty-Eight: "Purpose"

So, about that "work" ...

There are some things I've thought about the Drifters for a long time. I'd never actually fought them before, though, not at all.

That changed today.

A few observations:

The Drifters are either Sleepers, themselves, or so closely allied that it makes no difference. Every piece of technology I saw during our incursion into a "Drifter" hive that wasn't an actual Drifter battleship was unambiguously something the Sleepers made.

We entered from Amarrian space. We exited through Gallentean highsec. The Gallentean wormhole was the one the Sleepers had actually constructed in a deadspace pocket and surrounded with facilities-- on both sides.

The scale they work on is just absurd. Fifty-kilometer ... struts? Rods? Sticks? Can you really call it a stick if it's fifty kilometers long by maybe a kilometer wide? ... scattered in a broad swath in a way that seemed random if you looked closely, but if you panned back a ways was nothing of the sort. It was like dozens of sticks scattered in a vague S-pattern, only just huge, the formation hundreds of kilometers long, with electricity (or something that looked and mostly acted like it) arcing back and forth between them.

If it was a wreck, it hadn't been blown up by anything we did, I don't think. I got more the sense that it was discharging or else had discharged-- that either it was doing, at that very moment, what it was designed for, or that it had finished its job already. The massive, view-dominating spatial distortions above and below didn't do much to change that impression.

There seems to be such a thing as a Drifter station. It's quite a lot larger than most of ours, and, like most Sleeper stations of any sort, we can't scratch it. We did manage to raid a supply cache there, though.

I said before that Drifter weaponry seemed like a beautiful way to die. It is, kind of, but I don't think we'll be able to appreciate it very much. I saw the Lux Kontos beam that hit me, but ... it wasn't something that lasted. After all, looking pretty wasn't at all the point. It just tore my poor Caracal apart-- no dropping shields, no warning klaxons, just all of a sudden no ship. I'm sure nobody survived. At least it was probably painless; there wouldn't have been time for anybody to even notice they were all about to be dead.

I named the ship the "Acceptable Loss I." It seems heartless, but maybe I should keep doing that. At least that way I'll feel like my crew actually knew what they were getting into.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#192 - 2015-12-09 03:32:55 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:

I named the ship the "Acceptable Loss I." It seems heartless, but maybe I should keep doing that. At least that way I'll feel like my crew actually knew what they were getting into.


I find a death or injury disclaimer on the crew enlistment contracts as an adequate form of clarification on the required tasks at hand.

The job description is a pretty simple one: Either send others home back in body bags or go back in one yourself.

Given the usual meatbags desperate enough to take on such jobs it's not like their deaths much like their lives should be considered of any actual consequence or importance.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#193 - 2015-12-09 03:49:15 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
So let's review where we're at now. Lady Jenneth has sojourned —

— with wayward, liberal Amarrians who refuse to order her whom to kill
— with mercenaries who tell her to kill more or less indiscriminately

The result of this incomplete education is clear — pages and pages of doubt and angst. The solution is clear, someone among the Chosen needs to step up and give Lady Jenneth some clear orders about killing. I've tried and she ain't having my advice, so its up to you, Amarr Bloc — at least one of you needs to stop being so wayward and liberal and state in clear, certain instructions who needs killing and who doesn't need killing.

And why should you do this, O wayward liberal Amarrian? Not for her soul, which is already condemned to the Pit for her membership in SFRIM (unless she should stop sinning and then offer three correctly consecrated Minmatar, one of each blood line, upon the Altar of God, consume their blood, and carry it in a golden vial around her neck). No, you should instruct her in killing because if you do not, she will eventually find her way to the Minmatar. They won't be having any religious qualms about ordering her to kill. Not at all.


Do you really think that killing is going to help someone who has to bear the stigma of being a remorseless killer due to the actions of her genetic predecessor rather than her own actions?

Do us a favour and sacrifice a Punisher to Tamiroth.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#194 - 2015-12-09 03:53:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:

I named the ship the "Acceptable Loss I." It seems heartless, but maybe I should keep doing that. At least that way I'll feel like my crew actually knew what they were getting into.


I find a death or injury disclaimer on the crew enlistment contracts as an adequate form of clarification on the required tasks at hand.

The job description is a pretty simple one: Either send others home back in body bags or go back in one yourself.

Given the usual meatbags desperate enough to take on such jobs it's not like their deaths much like their lives should be considered of any actual consequence or importance.


I always schedule to greet the crew of whatever ship larger than a frigate I'm going to fly in the hangar and tell them, in their faces, that the reason why their salary, compensations and severance packages are so large and enticing is because they had enlisted to die horribly. Also made it a point to regale to them about the many ways they are going to die (including all the lurid details).

Whoever remains in the hangar after the forty-five minutes (including the time spent on the welcoming speech), I welcome and acknowledge as the ballsy daredevils that they are.

Then it's off to the safety briefings and drills.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#195 - 2015-12-09 05:07:31 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

I always schedule to greet the crew of whatever ship larger than a frigate I'm going to fly in the hangar and tell them, in their faces, that the reason why their salary, compensations and severance packages are so large and enticing is because they had enlisted to die horribly. Also made it a point to regale to them about the many ways they are going to die (including all the lurid details).

Whoever remains in the hangar after the forty-five minutes (including the time spent on the welcoming speech), I welcome and acknowledge as the ballsy daredevils that they are.

Then it's off to the safety briefings and drills.


I staff the recruitment offices at Nonni with survivors of ships that have 'brewed up' who haven't yet completed their terms of service. No prosthetic devices to be worn during working hours.

I figure if they can make it all the way through the horror show unphased then they REALLY want to crew one of my ships.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#196 - 2015-12-09 05:25:19 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

I always schedule to greet the crew of whatever ship larger than a frigate I'm going to fly in the hangar and tell them, in their faces, that the reason why their salary, compensations and severance packages are so large and enticing is because they had enlisted to die horribly. Also made it a point to regale to them about the many ways they are going to die (including all the lurid details).

Whoever remains in the hangar after the forty-five minutes (including the time spent on the welcoming speech), I welcome and acknowledge as the ballsy daredevils that they are.

Then it's off to the safety briefings and drills.


I have Occupational Health & Safety vids for that. Most probably don't pay much attention to it, but that's fine so long as they're aware that I control all the bulkhead overrides and atmospheric controls.

When I'm active the turnover attrition gets too high for me to bother meeting dead men walking in person, honestly.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#197 - 2015-12-09 06:04:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
I have also arranged for the publication and distribution of books, written by myself and edited by a companion who is very intimate about the harsh details of serving aboard a capsuleer ship, to all bright-eyed lads who wish to join up the cruiser crew.

The title is very brief, eye-catching, and to the point:

"You Are F***ed!"

Subtitled: "The harsh realities of serving aboard a capsuleer vessel and the ways of dealing with it."

Five pages of statistics about crew attrition rates. Then the actual content.

The first chapter is titled:

"Chapter 1: Resigning"

Followed by:

"Chapter 2: Breaking the news to family and loved ones"

The reason why I meet my would-be crew was because, well, I'm a privateer, meaning I do not really have a HR department. HR work is outsourced, either to independent third parties or the FDU itself. The contractors and the FDU do not tell the crew exactly how boned they are if they sign up to crew on a capsuleer vessel, especially one flown by irresponsible freelancers like myself. I believe that I must make up for this oversight and tell them very clearly that their expected life expectancy is measured in minutes.

FDU recruits are the worst. Always so full of **** and vinegar believing in heroism and the usual glory-hound-pandering nonsense. These recruits are more liability than asset if left the way they are. Better to slap them with the cold, hard facts about how boned they are before they start panicking and trip over a power conduit or hit their heads against a grate during an engagement.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#198 - 2015-12-09 07:03:32 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

The reason why I meet my would-be crew was because, well, I'm a privateer, meaning I do not really have a HR department. HR work is outsourced, either to independent third parties or the FDU itself. The contractors and the FDU do not tell the crew exactly how boned they are if they sign up to crew on a capsuleer vessel, especially one flown by irresponsible freelancers like myself. I believe that I must make up for this oversight and tell them very clearly that their expected life expectancy is measured in minutes.

FDU recruits are the worst. Always so full of **** and vinegar believing in heroism and the usual glory-hound-pandering nonsense. These recruits are more liability than asset if left the way they are. Better to slap them with the cold, hard facts about how boned they are before they start panicking and trip over a power conduit or hit their heads against a grate during an engagement.


For myself, even as what I would describe as being a frigate and destroyer specialist, if I do the maths then the estimated casualties I have both incurred and inflicted in terms of KIA would lie between about 15,000 at the lowest to over 60,000 at the highest.

There came a point when I realized that even with all the death I inflict, I do enjoy what I do, and I am good at what I do. Knowing that, I decided to be honest with myself and others and not affect like I give a damn about the sanctity of human life as I chase my own thrills of the hunt and the kill -- because I don't.

I'm certainly not going to pretend at my need to preserve human life with crew personnel who in all likelihood will either burn to death in a plasma fire; asphyxiate in hard vacuum; or be granted the sweet mercies of a warp or power core breach.

I know most of them will die, and for those that survive then they get to retire to some beach somewhere getting high on weed surrounded by hookers for the rest of their lives or whatever they want to do with the contractual rewards for completing a tour with me.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#199 - 2015-12-09 07:16:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
I simply believe that it is my duty to give all that I can give to the people who are going to give their lives to me.

One of the things I must give, other than compensation, is education.

They come in either not knowing what it was they are getting into, or were severely overestimating their chances at survival.

I will educate them, then I will grant them the choice of getting themselves killed for the benefit of a ne'er-do-well like myself, or leave and live a boring but very safe life of, well, I don't know. Fishing trawler crewman?

For those who stay, I applaud them and work to help them see and experience multiple calamities, until either they die for good or they lose the appetite for suicide missions.

Also, seeing them personally is a good way to remind myself to be less incompetent with my piloting the next time I undock. Watching them react (or overreact) with shock? Never gets old.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#200 - 2015-12-09 07:50:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Tamiroth
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Do us a favour and sacrifice a Punisher to Tamiroth.
No please, I don't need anything "sacrificed" to me.

On the other hand, if mr. Nauplius would be so kind as to self-destruct his pod a couple million times while praying to God for forgiveness, that might eventually work.

Elmund Egivand wrote:
I always schedule to greet the crew of whatever ship larger than a frigate I'm going to fly in the hangar and tell them, in their faces, that the reason why their salary, compensations and severance packages are so large and enticing is because they had enlisted to die horribly. Also made it a point to regale to them about the many ways they are going to die (including all the lurid details).

Whoever remains in the hangar after the forty-five minutes (including the time spent on the welcoming speech), I welcome and acknowledge as the ballsy daredevils that they are.
I strive not to use ships above frigate size in combat against other capsuleers, and I treat my battleship and battlecruiser crew like any other "mortal" captain would do.

Though, against Nauplius I have a list of volunteers willing to die - most of them freedmen or commoners of ethnic Matari descent - that's enough to crew a few Abaddons, at least. Numerous slaves and house servants also volunteered; of course, I forbade them.