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[Proposal] Make Drone Navigation Computer's a high-slot module
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James Duar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-01-08 12:45:58 UTC
The current Drone Navigation Computer module is ridiculous. No one ever trades a mid-slot for an increase in drone MWD speed. If you have a spare mid slot that can only fit this module, then you've fit your ship wrong.

Conversely: drone ships frequently have spare high slots. I can use a high slot to increase the range of my drones, but that's pretty much useless since 5 heavies are going to take over a minute to actually get to their targets and start shooting. They're vulnerable while MWD'ing. And more importantly, you don't use them like this on a PVP ship anyway.

Punchline: who needs a med-slot DNC? No one. Make it a high slot module like the Drone Link Augmentor, and make ratting in a drone ship stop losing DPS to slow as hell heavies getting to kiting rats.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#2 - 2012-01-08 20:42:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
If drones had more potential DPS, you'd probably see it in use. Really, the MWD speed of drones is mostly irrelevent as Heavies are more commonly used for PvE than PvP. They tend to be too big of targets in PvP and awful slow. Neuting Domi drone boat maybe, but mostly not I think.

Couldn't say a 100% as I've only actually ever run across Drone flinging BS/Ishtar a bare few times anywhere. Mediums and Smalls tend to be the thing from what I've seen though.

If you actually had a Drone boat capable of slinging 500-600 DPS on just drones; would you fit a DNS in your mids? 700-800?

OP I know, given each is a seperate target, in addition to yourself. Solo PWN mobile really.

I tried fitting an Ishtar with one once to see how practical it would be; but didn't think the benefit was worth it myself. If it was high, I think it would be used much more, as you suggested. Main problem I found with the Ishtar, was it functions better in many respects as a shield tank. Kind of rules out the Mids for that use, even as a dedicated drone boat; and I was using the high for ACs

Really doesn't leave much, unless you happen to be looking at a possible use for a Hyperion?? Haven't looked at one in awhile. Faction BS?? No idea. As a mid, I can't immediately think of a use.

Wait.. Typhoon? That might do it.

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[Typhoon, DNS Check]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Large Armor Repairer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

100MN Afterburner II
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Drone Navigation Computer I

Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Heavy Nosferatu II
Heavy Nosferatu II
Medium Graviton Smartbomb II

Large Anti-Thermic Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Ogre II x5
Valkyrie II x5

Not a bad fit, I think; of course, it's completely untested as far as I know.
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Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#3 - 2012-01-09 07:13:26 UTC
You should consider the combination of heavy drones + target painter then. Add in a couple of DNS and a DTS and your Ogres will eat even frigates alive. Which makes the combo of a fast tackling, target painting minnie ship in combination with a hard hitting gallente drone boat, all the scarier.

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-09 08:20:14 UTC
Makes sense. A module that increases drones' speed should take the same slot that increases drones' range. Supported.
Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#5 - 2012-01-09 10:24:16 UTC
Swap the target painter to high slot too. :D
Goose99
#6 - 2012-01-09 16:10:32 UTC
No, make drone control units fittable on subcap instead.Big smile
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-09 16:12:46 UTC
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