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A noob in new eden

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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2015-12-06 00:40:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
Orca Platypus wrote:
eve online combat pvp, according to statistics, is currently inaccessible to characters below 50 million skill points.

You just have to give it a few years (or a hundred bucks would do as well, if you don't mind the name change).


Uhm ShockedShockedShocked wth. ShockedShockedShocked dude just what are you talking about serious? what game are you playing? Thats not eve online. But more that game on phones call "clash of eve - pay the rubbish way"
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#22 - 2015-12-06 00:40:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Orca Platypus wrote:
eve online combat pvp, according to statistics, is currently inaccessible to characters below 50 million skill points.

You just have to give it a few years (or a hundred bucks would do as well, if you don't mind the name change).

You back pushing that silly position again.

What statistics are you talking about?

There is plenty of evidence to suggest that pvp is accessible to anyone.

Suitonia's YouTube channel is a good example:

Solo pvp with a 17 day old character:
http://youtu.be/de1hwoFYA_k

Solo pvp with a 20 day old character:
http://youtu.be/BvOB4KXYk-o

New player solo Kestrel pvp:
http://youtu.be/Je5UPKssuiE

Two month old character solo pvp roam:
http://youtu.be/k121k8SxIRw

That's just one channel that provides evidence to support a very different reality.
ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#23 - 2015-12-06 01:24:15 UTC
Toss me a convo ingame at some point and i will try to help you out a bit.
You can join a few fleets if you want, or ill you some other new player friendly corps.

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-12-06 02:32:04 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
...Fewer and fewer are helping you even after beating you and more and more kicking while down crowd is emerging. Its a sad reality but one that does play out in RL as well.


OP sounds like an ad for eve.

In 1983 i was a smartypants teenager telling someone how ugly they were and was told i was "hiding behind my glasses." The convention then was you didn't hit someone with glasses. So i took my glasses off, made a fist and invited the chap to do his worst. We both lived to fight another day and nobody had to kill anybody's dog.
Now, the moment where someone's glasses fly off as you kick them out of their wheelchair is replayed endlessly after being recorded by one of your 5 friends present, then uploaded to the internet. The spectacle allowing spectators to force the angst of the human condition to temporarily be not their problem but entirely that of another, at least for a moment.
Now it may be a sign of cultural decline, the erosion of empathy as a result of the atomisation of consumers, that's all debatable. What's certain is where that is normal, wealth doesn't flourish.
Try an experiment, set up two lowsec corps. One kills everything it finds, smacktalk is toxic and miserable. The other welcomes both enemies and friends, seeing them as more action in the sandbox. Would their fortunes rely on their conduct, or more subtle factors like location and access to resources?


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Top Guac
Doomheim
#25 - 2015-12-06 03:08:08 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
In 1983 i was a smartypants teenager telling someone how ugly they were and was told i was "hiding behind my glasses." The convention then was you didn't hit someone with glasses. So i took my glasses off, made a fist and invited the chap to do his worst. We both lived to fight another day and nobody had to kill anybody's dog.
Now, the moment where someone's glasses fly off as you kick them out of their wheelchair is replayed endlessly after being recorded by one of your 5 friends present, then uploaded to the internet. The spectacle allowing spectators to force the angst of the human condition to temporarily be not their problem but entirely that of another, at least for a moment.
Now it may be a sign of cultural decline, the erosion of empathy as a result of the atomisation of consumers, that's all debatable. What's certain is where that is normal, wealth doesn't flourish.

The only difference between now and then is the ability to record and publish.

The 80s, nor any other time weren't more chivalrous and noble than now. That's just nostalgia.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2015-12-06 10:09:06 UTC
Yeah some people have always been really evil but the values in general have undeniably changed.



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Max Muni
Muni Corp
#27 - 2015-12-06 16:16:13 UTC
What you are experiencing has no solution, since the PVP side of this game has been designed to allow inherently bad people to be rewarded.

Your best advice is .....

1) Stay solo, see the game as an explorer going anywhere your ship can take you when your skills permit.

2) Avoid immersing your game play into PVP, as the trolls clearly outnumber the knights.

3) If you feel you must make friends, join a high sec exploration corp.

4) Don't play too much, it's a space game, not a second job.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-12-06 22:45:13 UTC
Max Muni wrote:
What you are experiencing has no solution, since the PVP side of this game has been designed to allow inherently bad people to be rewarded.


This is just not true. I know lots of great people who are good at pvp.

Max Muni wrote:

Your best advice is .....

1) Stay solo, see the game as an explorer going anywhere your ship can take you when your skills permit.

2) Avoid immersing your game play into PVP, as the trolls clearly outnumber the knights.

3) If you feel you must make friends, join a high sec exploration corp.

4) Don't play too much, it's a space game, not a second job.



1) Hardest, quietest, slowest way to git gud and have fun
2) Dive into pvp, join a pvp newb friendly group, Brave, Pandemic Horde, Karmafleet
3) A highsec explo corp is trying to avoid fun, think "What would Han Solo do?" then do something bolder, the game rewards the pushy.
4)Play as much as you want






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