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Looking to learn nullsec survival and PVP? Then join OUCH!

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Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
#1 - 2015-11-23 03:45:37 UTC
You're here because you want to venture into 0.0 space (nullsec) to join in on the excitement you hear about, but you don't have any training. You know you'll die.

Many nullsec corps and alliances will offer you training only if you join their 'cause', whether that's PvP or industry. That can be daunting for someone that doesn't want to be part of some 'cause'.

We understand your dilemma.


What's the answer?

OUCH is the answer. It's the Open University of Celestial Hardship. We have very experienced trainers to teach you how to survive and fight in nullsec. We have no 'cause' other than to teach you nullsec survival and PvP.

Our motto: kill more, die less.


What does that mean for me?

You're going to lose ships (it's why we ensure you're only using cheap, expendable Tech 1 frigates while you're doing your training). You're probably going to get podded a few times along the way. We don't guarantee your survival in nullsec, but we do guarantee to teach you how to minimize your losses. Kill more, die less is our motto.

It's brutal out there, but when you're a member of OUCH, you're with a group of friendly, relaxed people who understand your fears. We're there to help you learn how to survive in nullspace. We will teach you everything you need to know.


What kind of training will I get?

Student training focuses on a number of essential skills in a detailed yet practical maner:

Overview settings
EVE client settings and interface
Bookmarking
Using the Directional Scanner
Tackling
Weaponry
Fleet Ops
Hunter/Prey


Once you graduate from OUCH you can apply to become a permanent member, or you're free to move on. If your application to become permanent is accepted, you will be transferred into our Operations department and have the opportunity to move into more advanced hulls and roles and receive advanced PVP training, including, for example, Interceptors, EWAR, Recons, Covert Ops, and support ships.


Student Training Schedule

Our training sessions are usually held every week on Saturdays and Sundays at 19:00 EVE time, Wednesdays and Thursdays at 18:00, and various additional time and day offerings depending on demand. We promote these sessions with our forum, EVE mails and in-game calendar.


Are there any minimum requirements to join OUCH?

No pre-requisites are required to join OUCH. No minimum number of skill points, API checks, interviews, etc. We truly are an "open" training corporation. Our students have ranged from one day old trial accounts to players who were with Eve since Beta. We accept anyone with a pulse.

However, to make your OUCH experience meaningful, you must be willing to have or accept the following:

A desire to learn how to survive in nullsec and develop your PvP skills.
You must do your homework and abide by our corporate policies and restrictions. After joining OUCH you'll find that in addition to attending Module training sessions, there's quite a bit of forum information you'll have to read and digest. You will not, and should not, be fighting from day one. Like when you learn boxing, it's the gym first and arena second.
When a student graduates and would like to become a permanent member of OUCH, he or she must apply to the Operations Department. You do not become a permanent member by simply graduating.
Be active on Teamspeak (for voice communications) when you're logged on.
Sign up to our forum and keep up to date with information and discussions.


OUCH is a nullsec survival and PvP training corp. You're expected to be practicing what you've learned, and if you're not practicing, then we hope that's because you've learned it so well you're teaching someone instead. Being on Teamspeak will allow you to chat with other corp and alliance members, and participate in more training and PvP operations.
Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
#2 - 2015-11-25 00:51:35 UTC
angelface
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#3 - 2015-11-28 19:11:34 UTC  |  Edited by: angelface
OUCH is not a friendly newbes corp
You must attend various modules in sequence only to hope to start to play
Due to the rarity of lessons EU pleayers could be forced to wait weeks just to have the possiblity to attend a lesson
On my first lesson after 2 weeks and half of waiting I was late 30 mins on a lesson of 3 hours for real life issues..
It was told me that I could not attend the rest of the lesson and have to wait again. Shocked
I leave to who is reading to judge.....
Taris Atram
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
#4 - 2015-12-02 13:21:53 UTC
Sorry to hear you had a negative experience. We have gotten better at offering off schedule training modules for students that have difficulty attending our regularly scheduled classes as instructors are available to teach them.
Taris Atram
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
#5 - 2015-12-02 23:15:28 UTC
OUCH Graduates. If you are reading this, we kindly ask that you complete this short survey so that we can improve the services our group provides.

Thanks!

angelface
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#6 - 2015-12-04 19:50:24 UTC
You are not sorry at all.
Evidence of this is the mail of your CEO who basically answered he did not care at all and I did well leaving the corp.
I do not post here only because it is forbidden by the EULA.
You can just stop this marketing to increase the clicks to your links.

A very unsatisfied CCP client
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
#7 - 2015-12-06 04:07:31 UTC
Angleface, we are glad that you have found success in a different corporation. All of our instructors are volunteers and take time from their personal lives, or their own game time to train students. Our strict training schedule is designed to ease the burden on instructors while still providing personal training to students. We are sorry that this schedule did not work out for you. We wish you continued success in whatever you do in Eve.
Syko5150
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
#8 - 2015-12-06 04:40:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Syko5150
AngelFace, I was there when you came in late. The class was already and hour in and you wanted us to start the class over. That's not fair to the Instructor and students who showed up on time. We do the training for free and we give you 90 days to do what can be completed in 2 weeks. We give extensions for real life and scheduling issues. You came in late and couldn't wait for the next class. The CEO basically responded to the letter by saying GLHF (good luck have fun). So what ever your problems with OUCH, we have successfully trained many students over the last 6 years. Some have stayed on as instructors, others have left to go elsewhere with a new found understanding of the game and the ability to pick their battles or fly safe through low and null. A few, such as yourself, haven't liked us much because of some perceived problem. I, like my CEO that I have known since 2005, wish you GLHF.
angelface
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#9 - 2015-12-08 09:09:35 UTC  |  Edited by: angelface
If you were present you should know that I never asked to start over anything.
I just asked after 2 weeks of no play (because the lessons have a strict sequence, and you can not do a lesson 4 if you did not attend the lesson 3) to join the rest of 2 hours and half of lesson, to play a little bit.

Saying that I had to wait other 2 weeks is an insul to good common sense, because this would mean 1 month without playing.

People like me pay a subscription monthly to connect and play, not to wait months doing nothing.
Bren Genzan
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
#10 - 2016-02-04 04:39:00 UTC
angelface wrote:
If you were present you should know that I never asked to start over anything.
People like me pay a subscription monthly to connect and play, not to wait months doing nothing.

You pay a subscription to CCP to access their servers and play their game. What you do in that game is up to you.

OUCH doesn't get a cut of your subscription fee to teach people what we do. We just do it cause we like to teach. But we do it on our time, because if we did it on the schedule of a score of random students, our Eve time would become all work and no play.

Nothing for nothing, I like to get paid when I work, don't you?

I'm sorry we didn't meet your expectations. Good luck and have fun.
angelface
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#11 - 2016-02-04 09:27:14 UTC
If you would just play of course you would not refuse another (not expert) player just late of 10 minutes the Saturday evening.

You are right below: people are paid for their work and this.

I do not know of course if you want players in the corp just to have their taxes or if you have to build a community and for this are paid extra game. Your profit with OUCH is not my business.

Just I want to post my experience to clear the camp of all this marketing slogan which try to show OUCH as a charitable and carebear no profit organization. it is not and the goal of OUCH is (like many other things in EVE) making people, expecially new player, losing huge amount of time to make them spending real money.

Regards





Bren Genzan wrote:
angelface wrote:
If you were present you should know that I never asked to start over anything.
People like me pay a subscription monthly to connect and play, not to wait months doing nothing.

You pay a subscription to CCP to access their servers and play their game. What you do in that game is up to you.

OUCH doesn't get a cut of your subscription fee to teach people what we do. We just do it cause we like to teach. But we do it on our time, because if we did it on the schedule of a score of random students, our Eve time would become all work and no play.

Nothing for nothing, I like to get paid when I work, don't you?

I'm sorry we didn't meet your expectations. Good luck and have fun.

Twisted Syko
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
#12 - 2016-04-19 21:33:30 UTC
OUCH is still training and helping students to learn survival in null sec and pvp.

If you have any questions join our public channel in game. OUCH-UNI