Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I was thinking about this the other day. I was thinking that faction EM missiles should be Imperial Navy and faction explosive missiles should be Republic Fleet. Federation navy doesn't need any missiles, plus that leaves two types for Caldari Navy which is going to be the biggest producer.

Alternatively it could be done sort of like hybrid ammo: Caldari Navy produces all four missile types but each is also produced by another faction: Imperial Navy produces EM missiles, Federation Navy produces thermal missiles, and Republic Fleet produces kinetic and explosive missiles.




I never noticed this but it's an important point. Republic fleet should have a webifier too. Put it a step over the rest, like so:

Republic Fleet Stasis Webifier
CPU: 30 Tf
optimal: 15km
speed: -60%

This puts it at the same speed reduction as tech 2 (10km) and Federation Navy (14km), while having the range of True Sansha (speed -55%). It costs more CPU and could also cost more in tags.

No more tags in LP stores. Tags in LP stores are what makes most of the stores suck.
Also no to forcing people to split between stores.

If there is republic fleet missiles, then it should be all 4 types.
And dear god, no OP webs that combine the best elements of every other factions possibilities.

The Domi/RF Ballistic Controls also cost a lot less (ISK wise) than the CN ones. At least the last time I viewed then. Offering a fitting for ISK advantage compared to T2. They are 12 cpu less which is quite substantial so if you are looking for a little extra cpu but don't want to splash on the however many 100'smillions of isk th CN ones are they are an option.

The RF/Domi hardeners also require considerably less cap to use than T2 AND T1 (10GJ compared to 30 per cycle) while requiring less fitting skills than T2. For newer pilots (with not great capacitor skills) the cap benefits may be very helpful. Or for those who have not yet trained Hull Upgrades V. As I recall I used them as a newb doing missions until I got the skills for T2 because they weren't that expensive (long time ago however).

These are all alternatives with something to offer for different pilots in different situations. Obviously ISK is a player regulated price (with some soft caps due to tags and LP prices). Otherwise the stats seem fine in the grand scheme of things.

I would rather be able to swop hull bonuses than worry about missiles when it comes to Minmatar.

So, only garbage ammo in the CalNav LP store and only awesome ammo in the FedNav LP Store?

I said funny, not balanced.

The Gallente LP stores gets a webber, but does not get a point.

The Minmatar LP store gets a point, but not a webber.


They are deliberately swapped.

Keep saying things aren't getting rebalanced.

I'll see you before the end of 2016 with at minimum a start of LP store rebalancing. I'm willing to bet ISK it's one of the next things coming up.



It's only OP if it's in the same price vicinity as the weaker varieties. I'd jump at the chance to buy a Caldari Navy webifier for 10-15 mil (a fair price) because I love having a webifier that beats tech 2 but Fed Navy is out of my budget range. But there's no point in paying 45 mil for a Caldari Navy web when I can buy a Fed Navy web for 70 mil, less than twice the price for more than twice the advantage over tech 2.

There's also no reason to pay over 100 mil for a Pith a-type large shield booster when I can get the x-type for under.

LP stores and faction/deadspace drop rates need to be looked at. Lower quality modules need to be cheaper, and higher quality modules need to be more expensive. It makes no sense to have faction modules barely better than tech 2 costing dozens of times as much, while there are deadspace modules operating at nearly officer level (without the fitting costs) which aren't even that far past upper faction pricing.

Missiles were never the Minmatar's secondary weapon system until the last few years. They didn't have any hulls bonused for them until tiericide.

Previously Amarr had more missile bonused hulls and Minmatar had better drone bays. That is why you still see anomalies like the sacrilege in the Amarr line up.

The LP store is still a relic from the past.

Yes thats true, Typhoon had the split weapon bonus along with the scythe FI, and huginn was missiles until very recently (forgot about that one). Minmatar was well known for having split weapon systems, even the Naglfar.

Tiericide streamlined a lot of things though (a lot of people complained about loss of flavour at the time).