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So how many people have net worth over 1 tril these days?
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tradingggg Sotken
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-11-09 19:44:54 UTC
Just wondering Roll
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#2 - 2015-11-09 20:52:32 UTC
Best estimate I can make of total gamewide assets is 15 quadrillion (including inactive accounts).

I'd be guessing there's about 500 accounts with NAV exceeding 1T, and a comparatively large number (maybe 5000-10000) accounts with 0.25T-1T.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#3 - 2015-11-09 22:15:54 UTC
Read the title as "1 trit" and thought, "Hey! I have a rookie ship too!"
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-11-10 09:29:06 UTC
It's a bit hard to say which of these accounts are individuals and which are corporations.

I have a feeling that there are considerably more trillionaire corps than individuals
Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#5 - 2015-11-10 11:15:16 UTC
I have played for along time and only know of 4 people who have 1 trillion in liquid isk (personally know I mean) I know of a few more but nothing confirmed.

I myself am still quite poor in comparison.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#6 - 2015-11-10 21:50:51 UTC
Xtreem wrote:
I have played for along time and only know of 4 people who have 1 trillion in liquid isk (personally know I mean) I know of a few more but nothing confirmed.

I myself am still quite poor in comparison.


There is a huge difference between a trillion liquid and a trillion in assets.

AFAICT there's less than 1 quadrillion liquid ISK in game - only about 5% of player wealth is in liquid ISK.

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Hemmo Paskiainen
#7 - 2015-11-11 17:21:29 UTC
The AT 1st price alone is worth 7T cash, you do the math

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u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#8 - 2015-11-11 22:21:45 UTC
Question is what do you do with all those trillions? If they just sit in the hangar/wallet you are not rich, you are a dusty warehouse. Roll
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2015-11-12 00:04:03 UTC
u3pog wrote:
Question is what do you do with all those trillions? If they just sit in the hangar/wallet you are not rich, you are a dusty warehouse. Roll


If I hit the 2-3 trillion mark (which is a very, very long way off), I have a plan to obliterate a trade hub.

Why? Because F*** Hek, that's why.

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Alt Pilot1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-11-12 15:50:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Alt Pilot1
u3pog wrote:
Question is what do you do with all those trillions? If they just sit in the hangar/wallet you are not rich, you are a dusty warehouse. Roll


Keep a portion of your ISK generating assets so that you can keep plexing your account.

Spend the rest on welping expensive ships, in order to create the worst possible Killboard record in history. For example, solo low-sec in a Supercarrier, etc.

When you're done, donate all the rest to Plex for Good. Then everything that you've put into the game would be used to help humanity =P
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#11 - 2015-11-12 15:54:58 UTC
u3pog wrote:
Question is what do you do with all those trillions?

Top up my wormhole's exotic dancer supply.
Big Lynx
#12 - 2015-11-13 07:53:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Big Lynx
879b liquids atm. ~ 3T in assets. (mostly AT Ships, some T2 BPOs). over and out.


Just some personal estimations of networths (isk + assets) of other players:

Chribba +15t

Entity +20t

Tinkerhell +10t

Bluemelon +10t

some 1t-2t I know, that's a count of more than 20 players.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2015-11-13 08:02:47 UTC
Big Lynx wrote:
879b liquids atm. ~ 3T in assets. (mostly AT Ships, some T2 BPOs). over and out.





That is a hell of a lot to be holding liquid.

Do you consider liquid to be wallet balances that you have sole control over, plus PLEX and nothing else? Or do you have a different measure of liquidity?

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Mohandar Sabezan
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-11-13 17:26:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Mohandar Sabezan
I've never been a part of the "AT Ship" crowd, so I don't invest in it.

I've always felt that the price is manipulated by a Cartel who control the supply, kind of like how De Beers control diamonds. If they don't control the supply, then the price would only be a fraction of what it is today.

After all, if you have "10 Trillion ISK" worth of AT ships, is it actually worth 10 Trillion ISK if you need to sell them? Perhaps other wealthier members of the Cartel would buy them from you, just so the prices don't tank.

But if you try to sell those 10 Trillion ISK worth of AT ships to the public, it would take Multiple years to sell (since it takes time for players in the general population to grow their wealth).

De Beers have infinite amount of time into the future to sell their diamond supply (or until we humans are capable of mining a planet or asteroid that's full of diamonds Roll)

But does Eve Online have enough time left in existence, for someone to liquidate 10 Trillion ISK worth of AT ships to the public? (not to fellow cartel members).

I wouldn't be surprised if the largest holder of Alliance Tournament Ships, would never be able to sell their holdings during the lifetime of Eve Online.

But the Cartel itself definitely cannot sell all of their AT ships during the lifetime of Eve. At least not at the current "market price", it would have to be at a significant discount.
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-11-13 18:29:50 UTC  |  Edited by: HeXxploiT
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Big Lynx wrote:
879b liquids atm. ~ 3T in assets. (mostly AT Ships, some T2 BPOs). over and out.





That is a hell of a lot to be holding liquid.

Do you consider liquid to be wallet balances that you have sole control over, plus PLEX and nothing else? Or do you have a different measure of liquidity?


Clearly not a trader. Pretty common for a non-trader to have a large portion of their wealth in isk.
As for myself I rarely have more than 10% of my wealth in isk and I frequently struggle to keep 5% on hand.
Just too many things to invest in. My wallet generally fluctuates between 8-18 bil daily.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#16 - 2015-11-13 19:09:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
Mohandar Sabezan wrote:
But does Eve Online have enough time left in existence, for someone to liquidate 10 Trillion ISK worth of AT ships to the public? (not to fellow cartel members).


Yes. Very easily if you're happy to sell a few billion below market value, the ISK is out there.

HeXxploiT wrote:
Clearly not a trader. Pretty common for a non-trader to have a large portion of their wealth in isk.
As for myself I rarely have more than 10% of my wealth in isk and I frequently struggle to keep 5% on hand.
Just too many things to invest in. My wallet generally fluctuates between 8-18 bil daily.


It all depends what you trade and how much time you want to spend on investing that ISK.

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Mohandar Sabezan
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-11-14 00:20:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mohandar Sabezan
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Mohandar Sabezan wrote:
But does Eve Online have enough time left in existence, for someone to liquidate 10 Trillion ISK worth of AT ships to the public? (not to fellow cartel members).


Yes. Very easily if you're happy to sell a few billion below market value, the ISK is out there.

HeXxploiT wrote:
Clearly not a trader. Pretty common for a non-trader to have a large portion of their wealth in isk.
As for myself I rarely have more than 10% of my wealth in isk and I frequently struggle to keep 5% on hand.
Just too many things to invest in. My wallet generally fluctuates between 8-18 bil daily.


It all depends what you trade and how much time you want to spend in investing that ISK.


I think the largest holders of the Alliance Tournament Ships would never be able to liquidate their holdings at the current "market price" created by the cartel. It would have to be at a significant discount.

So to realize the full benefit, its possible that some of them might eventually turn to RMT (i.e. selling the AT ships for real money).

Perhaps this is why CCP is releasing the limited edition ships again, from time to time. When they feel like things might get crazy.

For example, if Eve Online makes headlines on MMORPG.com, and other various gaming websites, that describes how some player spent $10,000 on RMT for in-game items, and then gets banned by CCP. I'm not sure if this would be considered positive publicity, or negative publicity.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#18 - 2015-11-14 02:35:46 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
u3pog wrote:
Question is what do you do with all those trillions? If they just sit in the hangar/wallet you are not rich, you are a dusty warehouse. Roll


If I hit the 2-3 trillion mark (which is a very, very long way off), I have a plan to obliterate a trade hub.

Why? Because F*** Hek, that's why.



I like Hek. Its 0.5 space, like all trade hubs should be.
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-11-14 04:26:03 UTC
Mohandar Sabezan wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Mohandar Sabezan wrote:
But does Eve Online have enough time left in existence, for someone to liquidate 10 Trillion ISK worth of AT ships to the public? (not to fellow cartel members).


Yes. Very easily if you're happy to sell a few billion below market value, the ISK is out there.

HeXxploiT wrote:
Clearly not a trader. Pretty common for a non-trader to have a large portion of their wealth in isk.
As for myself I rarely have more than 10% of my wealth in isk and I frequently struggle to keep 5% on hand.
Just too many things to invest in. My wallet generally fluctuates between 8-18 bil daily.


It all depends what you trade and how much time you want to spend in investing that ISK.


I think the largest holders of the Alliance Tournament Ships would never be able to liquidate their holdings at the current "market price" created by the cartel. It would have to be at a significant discount.

So to realize the full benefit, its possible that some of them might eventually turn to RMT (i.e. selling the AT ships for real money).

Perhaps this is why CCP is releasing the limited edition ships again, from time to time. When they feel like things might get crazy.

For example, if Eve Online makes headlines on MMORPG.com, and other various gaming websites, that describes how some player spent $10,000 on RMT for in-game items, and then gets banned by CCP. I'm not sure if this would be considered positive publicity, or negative publicity.



Why would opinion on someone getting banned for RMTing in Eve be any different that doing the same in another game and getting banned? If anything people would probably think the RMTer is brain dead since Eve actually offers a completely accepted way to buy isk.
Tangentoar
Mining and Logistics Incorporated
#20 - 2015-11-14 04:51:36 UTC
If not, I'm pretty close and have been for awhile but I've also been playing for a long time.
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