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Memo Cold
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-11-11 17:50:13 UTC
Hello,

another week in War, but who can argue these people declaring War is cheaper than a real bubble gum.

Don´t know if anyone of the devs, served for his country. Maybe not only few Millions to declare War really in high sec?!

This is no mimi thread more a logical thinking. If I´m go no to switzerland and take there 500 € on the table and say, damn each ppl who leave this line will be shot. That were a nice but a scary event.

Sorry Eve Devs seems not really realistic like your Warefare cost but maybe u aren´t so well in math at school.

Playing in high sec, is not worth anything. I´m understand each guy who wanna leave, especially the new guys in eve.

Thanks for your advantage!
Bobb Bobbington
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#2 - 2015-11-11 17:56:00 UTC
So..... ggrrrr wardecs?

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Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2015-11-11 17:56:09 UTC
Memo Cold wrote:
This is no mimi thread
I'm not sure what this is , but I can tell you that it's exactly what this thread is.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-11-11 18:05:57 UTC
Is a common topic, but that doesn't change I agree with you.

The war declaration itself is outdated in both name and execution. It is more of a "Capsuleer competition waiver" and should be based on system/constellation/region selection. Making localized declaration opens it up to be more used as intended as a means for competition between corporations. Small and localized would be cheap. A full global declaration extremely expensive.

If the receiver of the war accepts, that flags it as global for no cost if we want to keep it hardcore mode.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-11-11 18:10:21 UTC
Memo Cold wrote:
This is no mimi thread more a logical thinking. If I´m go no to switzerland and take there 500 € on the table and say, damn each ppl who leave this line will be shot. That were a nice but a scary event.

Sorry Eve Devs seems not really realistic like your Warefare cost but maybe u aren´t so well in math at school.


Given that a cheap wardec is 50 million isk, you are claiming that 1 euro equals 100,000 isk? Sweet, I have enough change in my pocket to buy 3 unfit rifters. I wonder what my three-bed house is worth in intergalactic spaceships? Never knew NASA had life so cheap!
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#6 - 2015-11-11 18:17:30 UTC
translation to english, anyone?
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-11-11 18:21:23 UTC
not really realistic? count yourself lucky concord doesnt use tax from every player to pay for war, is that the sort of realism you are after?

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-11-11 18:22:47 UTC
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:


Given that a cheap wardec is 50 million isk, you are claiming that 1 euro equals 100,000 isk? Sweet, I have enough change in my pocket to buy 3 unfit rifters. I wonder what my three-bed house is worth in intergalactic spaceships? Never knew NASA had life so cheap!


Average housing cost where I live would translate to 10,000 plex*1,000,000,000 isk/plex so a house is worth over what is that... Ten trillion isk?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#9 - 2015-11-11 19:06:33 UTC
It's even cheaper to dodge the war. War decs are cheap as a balance to the ease of avoiding them.

If you get a war dec, your two best options are:

1) Fight the war
2) Drop corp

Choose the one that results in the game play style you most enjoy.

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Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-11-11 19:55:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
uh...I'll handle this...a war dec fee is not the cost of the war. The cost of the war is what's paid in buying ships and ammo to fight with, and the replacement costs - not to mention damage to ego either by inflation OR deflation.

IRL (if you really want to go this way) all you have to do is call CNN and say, "I'm declaring war on _________" They'll do the rest. If you call from a friend's phone, you won't even have to pay for the call.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#11 - 2015-11-11 20:14:45 UTC
Find a spot somewhere that you can call your cabin. Set a jump clone there, leave some PVE ships and some other things. When that wardec shows up simply jump clone there.

If you don't paint a gigantic target on your back on the forums or in local chat they probably only really care about finding the clueless that are on autopilot or carrying on like there's not a wardec at all. Don't give them a reason to run locates on you. Big smile

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-11-11 20:21:21 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
It's even cheaper to dodge the war. War decs are cheap as a balance to the ease of avoiding them.

If you get a war dec, your two best options are:

1) Fight the war
2) Drop corp

Choose the one that results in the game play style you most enjoy.


That is kinda the problem, where is

3) Retreat

Dropping corp shouldn't be the only surrender option. Falling back just to low or nullsec is the same as not playing of one doesn't have the SP or player skills. The discussion of eve is _____ doesnt apply because I would rather have players enjoying the game sitting in highsec and paying subs than no players at all.

Hence, if somebody really really wants to drive a corp completely out of high security, well then it will take a considerably higher investment. System based declarations would not really have negative effect on anybody except for the grief style wardecs. We can color it how we want, but war dec vs noobs and indies on a global scale really does nothing. There are much more effective potentials for low/null pvp incentive.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Lara Sunji
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-11-11 20:59:23 UTC
highsec pvp lol - Highsec consists of campers and griefers and nothing else. Takes absolutely no skill.
Top Guac
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-11-11 21:17:23 UTC
Memo Cold wrote:
If I´m go no to switzerland ... ... and say, damn each ppl who leave this line will be shot. That were a nice... ...event.

Shooting people in Switzerland IRL is a nice event?

Highsec carebear spotted. RL murder is a nice event but a wardec in Eve is terrible. Typical highsec carebear logic.

Daily Guac award winner.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#15 - 2015-11-11 21:30:55 UTC
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