Missions & Complexes

I was playing duo with another battlship, we had a navy issue raven and a hyperion, and we have been missioning for the past week trying to burn through them as fast as we can. We have had zero problems, but then we came across this mission.

It spawned in the first wave of drones and then kept spawning them in for no reason. I could not even warp out when I was still active tanking at 50% armor on my hyperion and lost the ship. My friend in a navy issue raven almost died too, only a few seconds after me but managed to warp out. Even when splitting the tank.

This cant be right.

EDIT: Let me clarify.

The drone waves kept spawning in like 5 seconds inbetween each other. We fought the entire mission in one go basically. The drones should have spawned as actually waves and not a tsunami.

- We were not warpscrambed. (ship was aligning)
- All drone wave triggers popped up in chat at once.
- Played the mission before.

Something really needs to be done, because i've had a lot of bugs recently with skill management, fittings, ect just not updating the UI. And now bad triggers. Its just really frustrating because nobody expects two mission specialized battleships to nearly get taken down by bugged drone waves all spawning in at once.

Working as intended.

1: aligning is possible when scrambled, you just don't warp
2: strange, not working as intended
3: your argument is invalid. I lost several ships (auch) already to missions I've played so many times I can run them blindfolded, mostly due to stupid things from my side.

Insert standard *Pics or it didn't happen* quote here. Sounds to me like a stroke of bad luck from your side(s). Try a petition to get your ships back, just don't forget to include the logs!

As for the rest of your incidents, try clearing the cache if you or the game didn't already, I think this can solve a few things sometimes.

Had the mission several times this week, no problems on my end..

No one is saying you're making this up. What people are saying is it was most likely something on your side and not a bug.

Your best bet is to petition the admins as there is nothing more we can do. Only thing people on the forums can do is verify if this has happened to other people (it hasn't), and suggest other possible explanations (you don't accept them and/or they don't apply).

So go ahead, petition the admins to replace your ship and check to see if it's bugged.

Your name befits your attitude, sir


Petition and be done with it, and you might get something back, even if it is just an acknowledgment from CCP that it is indeed a bug. Anecdotal evidence from all concerned is just that - anecdotal. Only they have the capacity to see if it is as you claim, and it is bugged, or it is as the rest of the forum seems to think, and the triggers were shot and you didn't notice.

"See See Pee holds the Key"

It's also possible your friend in his shiny CNR wanted you to get zapped, and so he shot all of the triggers and got out, leaving you to face the music.


This possibility amuses me greatly, but I still think you should petition if you believe there has been a genuine error.

Yo dawg! When you got multiple triggers in a missions, and ya bringing friends, make sure to broadcast the targets yo!

Ya know? So ya don't each shoot all the triggers in one go and spawn everything.

Was going to post the EvE Survival page but got beat to it.
You should have a bookmark to that site and refer to it often, even mission vets forget.
The mission is not bugged it is working as intended you just got careless and popped all of the triggers at once probably because they got lost in the sea of red. seen that happend more than a few times.
Tagging targets, in this case the ones you do not want others to shoot is extremely helpful in preventing this problem use it.

Coordination between 2 or more players in alot of missions can be tricky, again tagging targets to the rescue.


No such thing as splitting tank in level 4 missions the rats attack anyone or everyone based on a series of factors.
Your attempt ot warp out my have triggered the NPC to attack your friend.
And when you died he did gain agro from everything in the pocket.
EWAR use is a big one for attracting NPC fire, learn to use this to your advantage by switching the ship that is using EWAR drawing a majority of the fire in many missions giving the other a chance for their tank to recover.

I know it is popular to say that 500 - 600 dps tank is more than enough for all level 4 missions and that is true as long as you properly manage the NPC groups and agro. However as you found out when it goes wrong for any reason 500 - 600 dps tank is worthless.
To prevent a loss like this in the future and especially when running missions as a group I suggest that you look at 800 - 1,000 dps tank as a reasonable level to give some extra protection against errors the other person may make.

And the answer is yes I spend more time running lvl 4's in a fleet with others than I do running them solo. And usually those fleet members are new players prone to making mistakes like shooting the triggers because they do not read the EvE Survival pages, or because they cannot or will not follow instructions on how to handle tagged targets.