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[IKAME] Unidentified Sleeper device; massive spatial anomaly [UPDATE]

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#21 - 2015-11-04 08:58:03 UTC
Amazing.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-11-04 09:25:58 UTC
I am here in the barbican as well. In the singular-use hull I used to get to the unidentified sleeper device. Thanks to Svara and Uriel that I found it. ...I will be sleeping in my pod tonight which I hate, there is nothing on board that I can describe as accommodations.

But it is worth it, no image or holo can do this thing justice. ...The device itself seems almost unreal so alien its appearance. Like a sculpture of titanic size but still, it is nothing to the vortex... I feel like I am falling into it. The energy here is immense, I can see it even if my sensors cannot. It seems to be confined to local space in a way I cannot describe as Mokoto said. And I will never have words to describe my feelings when I came upon it. But I will try:

I have seen another part of the universe, a face of god and his creation that I truly cannot comprehend. This was not meant for my eyes to ever see. No soldier of the dirt, no Kameira was ever meant to be here. I am an Empyrean, death is a distance to me. I am a supercaptial pilot, I never imagined to feel awe again when I have felt the fire of a doomsday on my armor and snarled back at it. When I have been to the heart of a star for an instant just to ride the surge out.

Today I have been humbled by what I have seen. God is greater than I ever thought, I who have seen every constellation in new Eden and twenty thousand days or more or war and death and humanity and life. I have been reminded just how small in gods creation I am. How small my understanding. I look into the vortex here in this place of the Drifter and I am nothing before god again.

It is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2015-11-04 14:08:03 UTC
I haven't even seen it, but the sense of scale is humbling.

Where does the designation "barbican" come from, and what, specifically, does it refer to?
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#24 - 2015-11-04 14:39:01 UTC
There are five Driifter Hives, designated Barbican, Vidette, Sentinel, Redoubt, and Conflux. We generally refer to the system by its hive name. This structure was located in an isolated portion of the Barbican Hive.

The names are associated with the meme-complexes transmitted by the Drifter Elements retrieved from the Hive.

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2015-11-04 14:50:00 UTC
Well ... I'm sure someone has raised this before, but a "barbican" is a castle fortification, a hardened gatehouse that restricts access to the larger fortress beyond.

If the names have actual meaning beyond their "military encampment" theme....
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#26 - 2015-11-04 14:52:29 UTC
The implication that these are outlying fortifications, guarding the path to the fortress proper, with what would appear to be massive wormholes forming within them...?

Yeah, that's about what I'm thinking.

Needless to say, IKAME will be monitoring these structures.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#27 - 2015-11-04 15:03:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
Nice pics. Nice find.

My first and immediate impression upon seeing the photographic evidence was "wave-guides."

A wave-guide is a device used to funnel, focus, or transmit electromagnetic energy from one point to another. They are typically used to move EM energy from an amplifier to an antenna for radio broadcasts. But they can be used in any EM power transmission installation, and also for reception. They are also typically hollow. They are not used for long-distance transmission because of the cost and impracticality of running a hollow tube over long distances when you can just broadcast it over the air anyway.

Given the evidence, I would guess that if they are indeed wave-guides, they are gathering and focusing energy into those spinning vortices. This would explain the light as a byproduct of the energy being focused there. The spinning could be a result of a coriolis effect from a larger frame work such as the local cluster or galactic spin.

Another option would be that the wave-guides are actually siphoning energy from the vortex, and the spinning is a result of something inside, perhaps a rotating singularity or pulsar. But where that energy is going I have no idea. And it would have to be going somewhere. Conservation of Energy and all that.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Sirlan Takahi
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#28 - 2015-11-04 15:29:46 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Well ... I'm sure someone has raised this before, but a "barbican" is a castle fortification, a hardened gatehouse that restricts access to the larger fortress beyond.

If the names have actual meaning beyond their "military encampment" theme....


There's a theme going, for sure:

Vidette:
- a mounted sentry positioned beyond an army's outposts to observe the movements of the enemy.

Redoubt:
- a temporary or supplementary fortification, typically square or polygonal and without flanking defenses.

Sentinel:
- a soldier or guard whose job is to stand and keep watch.



The exception is conflux.

Conflux:
- a flowing together of two or more streams, rivers, or the like.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#29 - 2015-11-04 16:29:13 UTC
An alternative theory, pilots.

As we know, the unidentified Sleeper device is located in an isolated area of a massive deadspace pocket. The spatial distortion, despite being absolutely massive, is only visible from within the locality of the unidentified device.

Clearly, the device is a focal point, and the distortion is visible only from within the focal point at this present moment.

However, what if the distortion encompasses the entirety of the hive? That's to say, what if this is the formation of a massive wormhole or spacetime distortion with the aim of relocating the hive complex itself? Failing that, I can't see the point or value of so massive an energy expenditure.

Mind, I doubt any of us can claim to really understand what's going on here, so this is really just spitballing.

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2015-11-04 16:33:23 UTC
That is the common use for the term Conflux, but a conflux in more basic terms just means a joining or coming together. By definition, a conflux can mean the act of people gathering together as well.

What is the chain cycle for the indexes and elements? Vidette>Redout>Sentinel>Barbican>Conflux?

If we think about it, Vidette and Redoubt imply mobile.

Sentinel and Barbicans are more fixed.

The Conflux would be where the two can meet up?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Anslo
Scope Works
#31 - 2015-11-04 18:10:26 UTC
Anyone try just...flying towards the distortion? Since the construct isn't giving up any hint of function, reading, data, etc, trying to interact with the distortion is kind of the only other option. Without being able to trigger or interact or get a read on either or, determining its function is gonna be shooting off a few autocannons endlessly while flying blind and praying you hit a target.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Sirlan Takahi
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#32 - 2015-11-04 18:17:56 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Anyone try just...flying towards the distortion? Since the construct isn't giving up any hint of function, reading, data, etc, trying to interact with the distortion is kind of the only other option. Without being able to trigger or interact or get a read on either or, determining its function is gonna be shooting off a few autocannons endlessly while flying blind and praying you hit a target.


When travelling towards it, we lose the focal point described by Makoto, so we can't see it anymore either.

What little proximity I could get before it disappeared was unnoticeable. It still looked as distant as it looks from the structure. This thins is massive and far away.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#33 - 2015-11-04 19:27:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Claudia Osyn
I wonder if that's what the Eve gate looked like, before the collapse....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#34 - 2015-11-04 19:58:39 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
I wonder if that's what the Eve gate looked like, before the collapse....


Artificial eve gate... is history repeating itself? Scary thought!

Reports is there is a structure at the center of the gate, but disruptions and spacial distortion make it impossible to get to anymore.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2015-11-04 21:32:56 UTC
Impressive.

Is there any evidence to suggest the age? Most "Sleeper" structure I've encountered were incredibly old. This does not seem to match the...architecture of the more familiar constructs.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2015-11-04 22:16:15 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Impressive.

Is there any evidence to suggest the age? Most "Sleeper" structure I've encountered were incredibly old. This does not seem to match the...architecture of the more familiar constructs.



Nothing I could see and never seen anything like it. However many of the "strands" or whatever they may be called are rather scarred and banged up.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#37 - 2015-11-04 22:29:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
IKAME pilots are currently verifying the presence of these anomalies in other Drifter Hives.

Martin Corwin, a recent recruit, provides these two images (1 and 2) of the anomaly in the Redoubt Hive, located in the same position relative to the Hive as in Barbican.

Jaret Victorian provides these images of the anomaly in the Vidette Hive, in a similar position relative to the Hive itself.

We are currently in the process of verifying anomalies in Sentinel and Conflux Hives.

In the meantime, Corwin observed that the edges of the distortion look remarkably cloud-like, which I noticed is curiously reminiscent of the visual distortion associated with using a stargate. Victorian also noted some marked similarities to the visual effects of certain spatial rifts we see within the Hives and at various other places in New Eden.

Again, my thanks to the pilots of the Consortium for our short-notice Hive penetration last night, and my continued thanks to the pilots of IKAME for their work in verifying the locations of these anomalies and other points of interest in New Eden.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#38 - 2015-11-05 03:08:20 UTC
The survey of Drifter Hives has been completed.

Jaret Victorian also assisted with the survey of the Sentinel Hive, with pictures here and here showing the presence of a similar spatial distortion and structure.

Sirlan Takahi, another new recruit, has provided visuals of the Conflux Hive anomalies, such as this and this.

We have now verified unidentified Sleeper devices and spatial anomalies in all five Drifter Hives, with apparently similar conformations and distortions.

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#39 - 2015-11-05 07:36:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Teinyhr
Makoto Priano wrote:


However, what if the distortion encompasses the entirety of the hive? That's to say, what if this is the formation of a massive wormhole or spacetime distortion with the aim of relocating the hive complex itself? Failing that, I can't see the point or value of so massive an energy expenditure.


My alternative theory - which I admit I just cooked up in the last five minutes - is that maybe the construct is suppressing the distortion, not generating or upholding it. Unless you have proof on the contrary that I've missed.

And, if the fortification theme naming is anything to go by as other people have noted, it does make some kind of sense - assuming this is something we can even begin to understand.
Jade Blackwind
#40 - 2015-11-05 08:07:56 UTC
It's beautiful.
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