EVE New Citizens Q&A

Strange that there is no choice where to distribute your starting skill points.

I think a nice improvement would be the following:

A starting pool of skill points and a limited number of starting skills to which you may distribute those points. Keep mandatory ones as low as possible - ie frigate 1, guns1 or something like that.

A choice from a few presets - Miner, Salvager, Combat pilot, you get the picture.

The lack of character customisation is a real turn off, as this is something I really like about RPG-style games.

I don't. Mind you I don't like mine either, looks like it was painted on.

Post one and we'll judge that then.

It's unfortunate that CCP doesn't allow trial accounts to post anywhere but here, and sometimes we get suggestions or general comments from trial newbies, but mostly we expect and reply to questions about the game and help requests.

Character creation has changed a number of times in the past, and one of the systems they switched AWAY from was exactly what you suggested.

Newbies don't know much about the game, and the fact that you have to buy and train some 160-180 different skills for this game, as opposed to 20-40 different abilities that characters in other MMOs get, is somewhat of a shock. The number of skills is information overload for newbies, and the fact that they have to come up with 5-10 million ISK almost right away, to buy the skillbooks they need, is also somewhat of a shock.

You believe you'd have more choice if given the skillpoints, but in truth you'll have to train the 80-100 support skills anyway, no matter what, because armor, shields, speed, agility, and resists matter even if you're a trader or industrialist, due to the ever-present PVP in this game. So it's not really choice, it's just more expense (having to buy the skill books) and more clicking (having to set them up in the queue to train).

I had hybrid weapon skills forced on me when I wanted to specialise in missiles. A choice at character creation would have been nice.

17 levels trained over 8 skills that I don't need. 66,821 SP I could have put elsewhere.

Hope you can sell the sp to those, I wouldn't mind getting rid of mining 2 and industry 1, ok so not much xp, but I dislike having skills I'll never use.

If you know you don't need them, then you're not a newbie and shouldn't be posting 'feedback' in this subforum. If you actually are a newbie, then quite frankly you don't know that you don't need them.

Some presets would be nice true, but let's be honest the actual difference between any of the 'packs' would be marginal at best. This is not a class based RPG. 65k SP is nothing; It's what, maybe a day and a half of training? You can still customize to your heart's content, in the actual game, as opposed to some inconsequential choices in the creation screen.

Think I'd have preferred no pre-sets just a blank sheet with a pile of sp to place where I wanted.

Don't have to be an old player to know that you may prefer missiles, doesn't mean you know if they're any good or not.

Up until a couple weeks ago 65K skill points is all that you had to start off with. Now you get something like 400k so it's an improvement.

As far as being customizeable this game is nearly infinitely customizable. You can train into anything. Further unlike most other MMOs you can participate with veterans on equal ground from day one. Eve is much more about what you know and who you fly with than your skill points. You are coming from a perspective that you have gained playing other MMOs and it just does not apply here. If you can let go of those non-applicable viewpoints you might actually enjoy Eve.

I can't say this enough, Eve is not like other MMOs and you can't play it as if it were. Open your mind and try things out with a fresh perspective and see what happens.

New players don't really understand the game and have a bad habbit of playing Eve as if it were other MMOs and appling skill points in manners that don't work well here. I think that giving them skill points to place where ever they want right off the bat is a bad idea. Regardless of if it is or not you train at somewhere around 45K to 65K skillpoints per day so in the grand scheme of things the amount of skill points that you are arguing about here is insignificant and you even arguing about what you've been given when you have the option to train whatever you want just goes to show how you don't understand the game and need to spend more time learning and less time commenting on things that you don't understand.

Eve combat is much more about match ups and counters than it is about skill points and specialization. In that regard having options is almost always far better than hyper specialization. So with that in mind you thinking that those 66K skill points are wasted just again goes to show how limited your understanding of this game is.

I typically recommend that newer players and especially trials train up lots of different ship and weapon types as well as professional choices and try everything. So in that case training all racial frigates and weapons skills to level 3 so that you can try them all out is a good practice and again in the grand scheme of things very little time.

If you could do me a little favor here, if you do stick with Eve I would love it if you could come back here after playing for a while maybe in like a year or so. Then comment on what you think of this thread or how your opinions have changed. If the thread gets locked by that time just send me an in game mail.

I can almost guarantee that a year from now you will get a little chuckle at what you are posting now.