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zhang elliott
Stygian Boatmen
#1 - 2012-01-06 18:11:30 UTC
I figure I already know the answer to this but thought I'd ask any. Once a character has been biomassed is there anyway to retreive the character from eternal slumber? Question
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-01-06 18:16:18 UTC
You have to sacrifice 666 beers to the icelandic gods of time and space at full moon.
If you tell the devs that you did it, they may look into resurrecting the dead character.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-01-06 18:24:24 UTC
yes but you lose all your wealth and all your ships.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Jask Avan
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-01-06 18:24:31 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
You have to sacrifice 666 beers to the icelandic gods of time and space at full moon.
If you tell the devs that you did it, they may look into resurrecting the dead character.

This'll do nothing but get them angry at not having the beer themselves. You must send the beer to them.
Othran
Route One
#5 - 2012-01-06 18:26:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
It depends why you did it and how long since it happened.

For example a rage-quit biomass can be reversed if you ask nicely within a couple of weeks and tell them you're an idiot.

Biomassing a character to make sure you don't come back to the game (I did that in 2005 - I stayed away for 3 years P ) when you've thought about it - no I don't think you'd get it back.

I don't believe there's anything technical preventing CCP from resurrecting characters but I think the general guideline is "don't do it unless it happened recently or there's an exceptional reason".

Nobody wants zombie characters from years ago suddenly reappearing Big smile
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#6 - 2012-01-06 19:00:58 UTC
Othran wrote:
It depends why you did it and how long since it happened.

For example a rage-quit biomass can be reversed if you ask nicely within a couple of weeks and tell them you're an idiot.

Biomassing a character to make sure you don't come back to the game (I did that in 2005 - I stayed away for 3 years P ) when you've thought about it - no I don't think you'd get it back.

I don't believe there's anything technical preventing CCP from resurrecting characters but I think the general guideline is "don't do it unless it happened recently or there's an exceptional reason".

Nobody wants zombie characters from years ago suddenly reappearing Big smile


This, basically.

Though, there might be a technical reason: they might do database cleanups from time to time, and while your character entry remains, the data regarding his/her items, skills, etc. might be gone or even corrupted.

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Othran
Route One
#7 - 2012-01-06 19:25:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Othran wrote:
It depends why you did it and how long since it happened.

For example a rage-quit biomass can be reversed if you ask nicely within a couple of weeks and tell them you're an idiot.

Biomassing a character to make sure you don't come back to the game (I did that in 2005 - I stayed away for 3 years P ) when you've thought about it - no I don't think you'd get it back.

I don't believe there's anything technical preventing CCP from resurrecting characters but I think the general guideline is "don't do it unless it happened recently or there's an exceptional reason".

Nobody wants zombie characters from years ago suddenly reappearing Big smile


This, basically.

Though, there might be a technical reason: they might do database cleanups from time to time, and while your character entry remains, the data regarding his/her items, skills, etc. might be gone or even corrupted.


Your items are gone for good the moment you biomass AFAIK. You won't be getting those back even if you get the character back. The reason is that the item database reference was a 32 bit integer and those got reused as items were destroyed/reprocessed/etc. It was a fair bit of the DT db scripts IIRC.

Its now 64 bit db references so you might have a fighting chance of getting some stuff back - but its bound to be hit and miss.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-01-06 19:32:48 UTC
There has been a thread about the same topic several weeks ago (cannot find it, otherwise I would link it). A dev said that normally data are not deleted, so there is most of the times the possibility to return biomassed characters- although it is possible that they have lost some skillpoints or other stuff if they are older.

I still think if you petition it, show them that you are a good mannered nice guy and promise them large amounts of beer (fresh out of the soda stream) they will do it.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
I'thari
#9 - 2012-01-06 19:41:06 UTC
Afaik, biomassed characters are simply moved to "Doomheim" corporation.... tho all their assets go to corp they were in. So, in theory it's possible to recover character, not that CCP will be willing to.

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Every single character used in this post is a work of fiction. Any similarities with real-world alphabet, or - god forbid - language is purely unintnetional!
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#10 - 2012-01-06 21:59:53 UTC
*BURP*

I ate a what???

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-01-06 22:24:42 UTC
If you ask very nicely, CCP can reverse it. I know a guy who has come back from the dead.

However if someone already took your dead character's name, it's impossible.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#12 - 2012-01-06 23:10:44 UTC
Bah thought this was a " make great PROTEIN DELICACIES" thread

....

Sad

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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#13 - 2012-01-06 23:13:42 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
There has been a thread about the same topic several weeks ago (cannot find it, otherwise I would link it). A dev said that normally data are not deleted, so there is most of the times the possibility to return biomassed characters- although it is possible that they have lost some skillpoints or other stuff if they are older.

I still think if you petition it, show them that you are a good mannered nice guy and promise them large amounts of beer (fresh out of the soda stream) they will do it.

You put beer in a soda stream?
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-01-06 23:15:03 UTC
It might be possible, if one knows the proper diminutive and repsectful speech by which one addresses the gods with.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Orlacc
#15 - 2012-01-06 23:43:34 UTC
It can be done.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
met worst
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-01-07 01:56:04 UTC
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:
It might be possible, if one knows the proper diminutive and repsectful speech by which one addresses the gods with.

repsectful?

Is that like nullsecfull or lowsecempty? Where the hell is repsec anyway?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#17 - 2012-01-07 06:34:35 UTC
non judgement wrote:

You put beer in a soda stream?


You put beer in a SodaStream!

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Suitonia
Order of the Red Kestrel
#18 - 2012-01-07 10:54:46 UTC
When a character is biomassed their entire wealth gets sent to your Corporations wallet, and all of the characters assets becomes impounded property. Some people in my corp has gotten their stuff/money back by paying the fee at the offices where their stuff was impounded, and by having someone send the isk back to them from the corp wallet.

Obviously if you biomass in an NPC corp... you're never getting it back.
And enjoy paying the 150mil fee to get your assets out of Jita 4-4 or hub stations.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-01-07 11:01:38 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
If you ask very nicely, CCP can reverse it. I know a guy who has come back from the dead.

However if someone already took your dead character's name, it's impossible.



Not impossible , i biomassed my character and just before that gave all my stuff away.Came back to eve a few years later and asked CCP nicely for a recovery wich they did allmost immediatly.The only problem was the name flakes wich was my original name was taken allready so they gave me caldari55156321 name till i send them the new name i wanted.And here he is , flakeys , been a few years ago when i came back to eve so not quite sure if it is still a used method for CCP.

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GM Spiral
Game Master Retirement Home
#20 - 2012-01-07 11:48:58 UTC
Depending on time, reason and circumstance; bits and pieces may be salvaged. But you may not like what you get back, at all.

You can contact us and query about this, but this more so than on any other subject we can not promise a thing. Necromancy is an ephemeral and utterly unreliable thing. If you biomass a character that character is for all intents and purposes gone.

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