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Bumbling newb terrified by nice people.

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Flast Barter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-11-02 22:46:22 UTC
Last game of this nature I enjoyed it was a pleasure to read my first post years later and chuckle at my naiveté and it helped quell the keyboard smashing rages :) So this shall be my happy place for the foreseeable future

First hour pottering about and discovering the excitement of locking onto a rock. Up pops a private chat request. A shiver runs through me as I'm expecting destruction and connivance, even in high sec space.

Nope, just ten minutes of pleasant chat, a bit of advice and then off I pop to cook dinner.

Figuring out how to refine and sell the ore I find the wallet button. Said player had chucked 15m isk at me. How jolly nice and unexpected.

This leads to questions:

I don't want to pee this (small amount to exp. players but seems huge to me) up the wall so what at this stage (day 1) do I need to do to? Clones anywhere? I have no real progress to save so is there a point?

Do I buy a frigate to do the first career missions or use starter ship and wait for gift ships?

Join a corp like "Virgin" right now or wait till I have done missions? I'm eager to do this because the whole point seems to be experiencing this with other people and dragging yourself from high sec to the big wide universe out there...

And dying horribly at the hands of a gloating fourteen year old in a sweaty act of Karmic rebalancing for all the times I've set homework prior to football matches/bonus, patch or release weekends on their favourite games/purely on the basis that I had to put up with it so those little darlings can enjoy it as well.

Just a little attempt to balance out the whiney posts with some light and warmth :P. If you have any suggestions for corps other than eve uni (very good place but I am aware of it) feel free to post below. I have ts3 and a magnificent history of shooting the wrong thing whilst going to the wrong place.


F.B.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#2 - 2015-11-02 22:51:35 UTC
You can't join a proper newbie coalition too soon.
- Brave
- erm Test?
- Pathetic Horde
- Provi Bloc
etc

Just make sure to ask around with a lot of questions and get the info first before you act impulsively. Also talk to people in their public channels, find a group that matches your personality.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#3 - 2015-11-02 22:55:54 UTC
Welcome to the game. I hope you find years of enjoyment and become one of us. It's not the bad community it's made out to be. That's the reputation we enjoy, but most players are just regular people you'll find anywhere.
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-11-02 23:02:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tisiphone Dira
There used to be 2 types of clone, medical and jump. Medical clones were to 'save your progress' as you put it, that's gone now, the need for medical clones was removed a few months back. Don't worry about SP loss anymore, that's gone. The only way you lose any SP from dying now is if you die while flying a t3 cruiser, which you wont be for a while.

Jump clones let you essentially teleport your pod (not your ship) every 24 hours (can be reduced by a few hours with a skill). You wake up somewhere else, where you left the jump clone. It's pretty handy. You can traverse the galaxy in a moment, or swap clones to use a different set of implants.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#5 - 2015-11-02 23:14:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
There are 2 types of tutorials, the opportunities thingy and the old career agents (hit f12 ingame and there should be an option for them if you can't access them). The old ones should give you enough ships to complete the tutorials so no need to buy one for them.

With reference to joining a corp; yes you should do it, but be aware that there are terrible corps out there and some of them exploit newbies with tax and the like. Do the tutorials, then the SoE epic arc for some extra cash and get a feel for the basic game mechanics while you look around for a home.

With your magnificent history of shooting the wrong thing whilst going to the wrong place you should fit in well here.

Welcome aboard.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

David Therman
#6 - 2015-11-02 23:56:51 UTC
By all means, scout around for a player corp if that is what you wish to be a part of, but let me just say you've picked the best "starter" corp out of the bunch. Talk to them, get a feel for various bits and bobs of PVE/PVP (whatever floats your boat, CAS does events/fleets for both) and most importantly, have fun!

Welcome to Eve. Smile
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-11-03 01:02:13 UTC
Flast Barter wrote:


Do I buy a frigate to do the first career missions or use starter ship and wait for gift ships?



F.B.


If you join a player corp they will probably equip you.

If you want to go solo while thinking about who to join:

CAREER AGENTS

Military Career mission 2 gives a T1 combat Frigate (so does military 10)
Industry career mission 2 and Business Career mission 2 both give free venture mining frigates
Business Career mission 10 gives a free Industrial T1 hauler
Final Exploration Career mission gives a probing T1 Frigate
Advanced Military mission 10 gives you a free T1 Destroyer

You can actually complete these missions 12 times once at each of 12 schools for 12 free destroyers 12 free Industrials etc etc if you can be bothered flying all over EVE and doing all 12 schools (most people could not be bothered).


THEN do the Sister Epic Arc for 10 mill total profit enough for a cruiser.


Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#8 - 2015-11-03 01:08:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Make sure your char's name is one you want to live with for the duration. If it isn't, start over with a new char with a name you like, before you build up so many SP and connections that you're past the point of no return.

Typical vet player tale: "I joined on a free account, did the portrait thing, and had to come up with a name. Was just checking the game out, but I got into it. Now 2 years down the line, I'm in a leader/public position, but I hate this stupid [substances/meme/bronies, etc.]-referencing name. And my co-workers/classmates are fired up about the game from what I've told them, but I can't invite them because of my stupid char name. It reveals too much about my casual home life. I petitioned CCP, but no use-- no name changes, it's an inflexible rule."

Usually nobody else notices anything stupid about the name, except the player himself. But that's how it is. Makes the guy feel less than comfortable, for years.

Anyway, welcome to the game mate. You're in for plenty adventures and oddities along the way!
Spruillo
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2015-11-03 02:04:58 UTC
THIS WILL B DEALT WITH

PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM

Klas Kanjus
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-11-03 02:17:33 UTC
Welcome.

That's kinda what's cool about EvE. Someone actually helps you, but you can't help but wonder if it's a scam... because it very well could be.

You are right to be skeptical and cautious. It's a good way to approach this mad universe we all love.

I echo the above notes about hoping you stick around and become one of us. There's no game like it. And I've made some great friends along the way.

Also echo to bite the bullet and do the tutorials and Sisters of EvE epic arc. It'll help you get some quick ISK and outfit you decently for a noob.

I strongly recommend you take your time and explore the different play styles - unless you figure out where/ what you wanna do right away. Unless you plan to create alts it's probably important that after 3 months or so you start developing an idea of what path you want to go - PvP, Industry, etc. What I love about EvE is that you have to make choices. And if you end up like a lot of us you'll have a small army of alts (I have 4 accounts) 'cuz you like to do a lot of different stuff and the different alts can really compliment each other when it comes to making ISK.

But do get out into Low Sec or Null Sec - into an alliance. If nothing else just to get the experience - learn from others - and make a solid amount of ISK. If it turns out that you don't feel comfortable where you land just switch and don't waste time doing it. There's a lot of different corps/ alliances with a lot of different cultures. There's bound to be one or more that you'll find you just click with.

And remember - if you aren't exploding in a fireball of death and adrenaline filled agony you probably aren't getting everything you can out of the game.

Fly dangerous and take chances.

Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-11-03 05:26:32 UTC
Flast Barter wrote:
so what at this stage (day 1) do I need to do to?


First: It's worthwhile to do all the career missions. Not because they're representative of what it's like to live in New Eden, but because they will help familiarize you with the user interface. You'll get a few ISK and ships out of the career agents, too.

Second: Congrats, you lucked into an excellent starter corp. One so excellent that I and many other players in the game are still extremely active in it. (Some even for ten+ years.) As stated earlier, CAS Does Stuff(tm). CAS has players who mine together, live in a wormhole together, run missions together, live in nullsec together... If you find a group of players you get along with and want to join their corp, by all means do so. But if you want to try out a few different playstyles before committing to anything, post up in CAS corp chat that you're new and looking for stuff to try - somebody will be able to help you achieve that. (There are trolls of course, but hopefully you can handle yourself around them. :) )

Personally, I'm part of the permanent nullsec fleet. I don't spend a lot of time in corp chat, but if you want to try some PvP perhaps I'll see you around, eh? o7 (I spent about a month on my own when I first started playing and was getting pretty bored until, after some searching, I found out about the nullsec fleet. It's those players I fly with who got me hooked on the game and keep me logging in.)

http://www.cascorporation.com/cas_resources.php
Ultim8Evil
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-11-03 05:56:53 UTC
Welcome to Eve!

Ignore what two-bit online articles written by WoW/LoL fans say about us, the Eve player-base is great.

I've been here almost 11 years now.

The Eve community is second to none.

Follow me on Twitter for literally no good reason @TheUltim8Evil

Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-11-03 07:00:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
I can see by your name you're a Douglas Adams fan. Good start there. Finding the humor is one of the fun parts of this endeavor. Since many noobs will likely read this thread, I won't BS here like I usually do in other threads.

DO the tutorials. (Allow me to repeat that.) Do the tutorials.

Don't listen to the cool kids that say, "Aw, you don't have to do tutorials. Just play!" One reason is, a lot of cool kids say that then look for these people with little clue to the game just to GANK THEM! So, remember,
the wolf advised Red Ridinghood.

After you do the tutorials, including the advanced set, go to Arnon and do Sisters of EVE.

While you're doing all this keep an eye out for social contacts. If you luck out quick and get into a player-run corp, don't let the epeen strokers divert you from the above goals, DO THE TUTORIALS, DO SISTERS OF EVE.

When you have that stuff done, you'll be oriented enough, with enough munny and ships, to make decisions.

Google is your friend. Type "EVE _________" for whatever you're curious about. You'll be AMAZED.

Use your ingame browser. Read your info panels. (Only ask in a chat window if those two fail, which will be never.)

EVE players like to lie. The first rule here is not "have fun." It's "trust no one." That's for a reason, not to be cute.

AND....HAVE FUN!!Cool

There just isn't anything that can be said!

Flast Barter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-11-03 07:18:09 UTC
I will admit the meta of actually having to use my judgement of people and situations is part of the appeal of this game. I've worked in the corporate environment and education and the different traits required to succeed in those places fascinated me. Who knew that we all have an utter bastard in us? :P

I'm going to try for the cute and fluffy with big guns approach and see where it goes from there.

Thanks for the advice so far. I have learnt that being a grownup and asking honest questions as opposed to bitching about things is as beneficial on the internet as it is in the real world :P.


F. B.
Sacu Shi
Golden Nyx Corporation
#15 - 2015-11-03 07:30:53 UTC
If you do the tutorials, you end up with a crapload of starter ships, a good skills foundation and a happier wallet. Also some experience in a few aspects of the game.

That being said, joining a good, active corp is also important as other pilots will be able to teach you things that the npc's never will.

Welcome to EVE. If you wanna fly sometime, drop me a line ingame.
Commander Spurty
#16 - 2015-11-03 11:34:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Spurty
CCP supply the Lego bricks, crayons, paint brushes and paint.

Without you picking them up and doing things with them, they just sit there.

Join a Corp and start building something.


Even if it's just a black background with a bright yellow explosion in the middle (your ship exploding) lol

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

Angel T Hunter
Hoplite Brigade
#17 - 2015-11-03 12:01:40 UTC
F12

select show Career agents... go do all of them, then join a corporation..

and welcome to eve!
Erin Oswell
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#18 - 2015-11-03 12:03:49 UTC
Keep in mind that there are many different corps around, some of which are tailored to certain interests. Such as mining, exploration, PHP/PVE etc. So pick one that best suits your skills & interests. As you're new you might even be given ships and skillbooks to help you along your way in the corp.

You're probably being bombarded every day already with mass recruitment messages, personally I would bide my time and wait for one to you on a more personal level. Those that take the time to get to know you and your needs before throwing some spammy canned recruitment PM at you are much more likely to have the time and patience to help you settle in and progress. No disrespect to any corp that does to mass recruiting though.

Rules of Acquisition #13: "Anything worth doing is worth doing for money"

Daerrol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2015-11-03 16:10:32 UTC
Before joining a corporation, ask what they will do for you. Once in, hold them to their promises or leave. Are they saying free ships/skills for rookies? Make sure you get the ships and books. Are they saying nightly roams? If 4 days pass and no roams, ask what's up.

Don't be entitled, you are still the new guy, but do indeed mention you were told X would happen and it hasn't. Tons of corporations are directionless entities that eventually fade out or worse are just tax collection points for other players. Don't be in one of these. Make sure your Corp Leader logs in semi-regularly. Make sure the group does stuff together. Make sure the goals of the corp as your goals. (Actually make sure the corp HAS goals)

Goals are key to EVE. Very key. There is no natural progression path so you have to make it up yourself. It could be to fly a battleship in PVP. It could be to kill an officier rat. It could be mine 10,000,000,000 Tritanium. It could be to construct a supercapital. It could be to form the next superpower. All of these are possible but you need like minded people to help and guide you.
Greylord Kane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-11-03 17:51:45 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
I can see by your name you're a Douglas Adams fan. Good start there. Finding the humor is one of the fun parts of this endeavor. Since many noobs will likely read this thread, I won't BS here like I usually do in other threads.

DO the tutorials. (Allow me to repeat that.) Do the tutorials.

i]HAVE FUN!![/i] Cool[/center]



This is GREAT advice...Do the Tutorials all the way through and then figure out which path interest you.
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